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    Quote Originally Posted by Squirl View Post
    Yes, all you needed was "luck" to kill Illidan or Kil'jaeden consistently when they were current. Those bosses and the ones preceding them were definitely as easy as LFR is now.
    I love this, because every HC boss that has come after TBC that everyone thinks was such an awesome raiding xpack because of dificulty is dreaming every end HC boss after TBC has been harder than TBC because of the complexity increases in the fights, the amount of abbilities and technology that has been added every time. Every expantion brings out Harder HC end fights (in DS I would not say Deathwing was so hard but I think Spine was real good).

    OT: If they did the grind and can kill the solo bosses who gives anyone the right taking away their hard earned orange pixel, get over yourselfs its a game let everyone enjoy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephrie View Post
    Yeah, because you're playing dumbed down versions of a raid. I thought that's obvious you're going to get minimal reward. I still think it's too much - if you just want to see the content, what's the point of the gear on LFR?
    It seems like there's a population of vocal players, you for example, who are unable to accept/understand some fundamentals about LFR.

    Like, for one thing, if someone runs LFR more than once, it's not "to see the content."

    Basically, you don't know/understand/acknowledge/accept what LFR is. But whatever you're polite so good tidings and all that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honnycorns View Post
    Legendaries nowdays are not even worth being called legendary...
    And they never where or ever will be - your daughter writting you her first letter THAT is legendary....

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBigPapi View Post
    Yes, a 1000x yes. people who rely solely on LFR to see content in this game are so entitled its ruining the game and the community(well worse than it was).
    No its people who CLAIM to be HC Raider l33t snowflake are the problem that is ruining the wow community cause the majority of lfr raiders gives a shit about forums... all special snowflakes gone that cry so hard about lfr/flying/whatever ruining the game gone and wow will be a much happier place!


    You can hate it or like YES LFR Raider will get the same Legendary as HC Snowflakes.
    tbh either you give legendary to all or ONLY to people who do a HC ONLY Boss in the first month it went live.
    (but if the later would be the case all the lfr haters/claiming to be hc raiders would drown the vale with their tears...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Normie View Post
    It seems like there's a population of vocal players, you for example, who are unable to accept/understand some fundamentals about LFR.

    Like, for one thing, if someone runs LFR more than once, it's not "to see the content."

    Basically, you don't know/understand/acknowledge/accept what LFR is. But whatever you're polite so good tidings and all that.
    Well, that's the funny thing, I know that LFR is not to "see the content" for 90% (I just took that percentage out of my rear) of people running it. That's just one of the most commonly used argument of people that try to justify LFR existing in the first place, so I wanted to use it in a kind of sarcastic way. Sarcasm doesn't really go along well with writing though, my mistake. :P But whatever, as I said, I don't really mind about LFR. I just don't like people complaining about how they don't get enough stuff while running it.

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    Of course LFR in 5.4 will be part of upgrading the 600 cloak to legendary status. It's silly to think that LFR has been part of the entire quest chain so far and then suddenly it won' be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marema View Post
    Of course LFR in 5.4 will be part of upgrading the 600 cloak to legendary status. It's silly to think that LFR has been part of the entire quest chain so far and then suddenly it won' be?
    The cloak is finished just like the rest of the phases of the legendary. 5.4 will be about weapons as Blizz has previously stated.

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    it will happen

    that's how legendaries work these days

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    Quote Originally Posted by asharia View Post
    it will happen

    that's how legendaries work these days
    Yeah, and it's no problem. It's the magnitude, length and time that goes into this questline that is the legendary part of it. The rewards are just yummy flavour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seriss View Post
    Yeah, and it's no problem. It's the magnitude, length and time that goes into this questline that is the legendary part of it. The rewards are just yummy flavour.
    Subbing for 12 months and AFKing all that time should net you a legendary then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    The cloak is finished just like the rest of the phases of the legendary. 5.4 will be about weapons as Blizz has previously stated.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wrathion
    My work is not quite finished. This cloak will grant you the power of the celestials. Very soon we will be able to augment your cloak with my own formidable draconic powers. Continue to aid your allies in the war effort. I will contact you shortly!
    Don't worry. Everyone will get legendary cloak. Hopefully it will come with new cloak model too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by torterra275 View Post
    We have gotten legendaries, just no legendary gear left.
    At this point, I don't see why not, getting a legendary doesn't have to be difficult, just time consuming. It fits WoW's design philosophy to do so and even if you do run purely normal/heroics, it doesn't affect you in any way if someone who just runs LFR gets a legendary.
    Ofcourse it affects everyone. Value (personal and cultural value?) will drop. When everyone is a legend then being a legend is worth less. Maybe in your opinion it doesn't affect you but you can't say it doesn't affect anyone else.

    But anyway. I have a feeling you will be able to get one through LFR.
    Last edited by Gilian; 2013-06-20 at 01:38 PM.

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    I'm expecting a legendary weapon enchant. Don't believe they will give us any item the expansion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeozordon View Post
    I love this, because every HC boss that has come after TBC that everyone thinks was such an awesome raiding xpack because of dificulty is dreaming every end HC boss after TBC has been harder than TBC because of the complexity increases in the fights, the amount of abbilities and technology that has been added every time. Every expantion brings out Harder HC end fights (in DS I would not say Deathwing was so hard but I think Spine was real good).

    OT: If they did the grind and can kill the solo bosses who gives anyone the right taking away their hard earned orange pixel, get over yourselfs its a game let everyone enjoy it.
    And people are not enjoying it anymore because of things like LFR giving away legendaries like candy. But those people are the minority right? So who gives a shit.

    Telling someone to let you enjoy something while taking away their enjoyment, very nice.

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    I don't know about you but from my experience the drops are extremely low in LFR for the legendary quest items. I relied on normal mode for them and even then it was a slow process. If someone does all the quests with LFR alone then they deserve it for all that time invested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilian View Post
    And people are not enjoying it anymore because of things like LFR giving away legendaries like candy. But those people are the minority right? So who gives a shit.

    Telling someone to let you enjoy something while taking away their enjoyment, very nice.
    Listen here please explain to me where anyone is taking away your enjoyment????

    as a normal/hc raider the items was even faster to collect because of LFR you could get your drops from normal/HC and LFR in one week as where the dudes from LFR only had LFR to get it from so they worked even longer on their legandaries up to now and you just want to take it away from them, that my narrowminded friend is not very nice.

    and your right if the minority does not enjoy the game anymore WHO GIVES A SHIT!!!! its a MASSIVE-MORPG not a MINORITY-MORPG!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drudatz View Post
    And they never where or ever will be - your daughter writting you her first letter THAT is legendary....

    No its people who CLAIM to be HC Raider l33t snowflake are the problem that is ruining the wow community cause the majority of lfr raiders gives a shit about forums... all special snowflakes gone that cry so hard about lfr/flying/whatever ruining the game gone and wow will be a much happier place!


    You can hate it or like YES LFR Raider will get the same Legendary as HC Snowflakes.
    tbh either you give legendary to all or ONLY to people who do a HC ONLY Boss in the first month it went live.
    (but if the later would be the case all the lfr haters/claiming to be hc raiders would drown the vale with their tears...)
    Respect to you man for the bold part , it is very true the only people QQ-ing are the butthurt normal mode raiders. The hardcore crowd and the LFR crowd don't give a shit. I feel very bad for them. Can't wait for flexweave mode to be the new LFR in terms of hatred/anger issues

    People should get rewarded for the efford they put in no matter what. All the people who say LFR is AFK-fest or w/e are talking bullshit. Sure some idiot healers or dps can afk but me as Main tank no, just no. I always performed good in my LFR runs and people actually were glad that I joined them. So according to some people I should not get my legendary (who puts in effort, sweat, tears raiding with all these terrible pug people) just because of some AFK scrubs? Sorry but thats a stereotype, either blizz needs to fix the afk issues or everyone in LFR should get anything out of it incl. the legendary simply because that is not a community issue but rather a broken system. Sorry for a long paragraph but I want to point something out.

    PS. Sorry if there's grammar mistakes, I'm not british/american. Also I'm too lazy to google every single word I don't know
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    Quote Originally Posted by fangless View Post
    I know personally, as a heroic raider, I don't necessary care what people get exactly. I hope people get items for doing stuff.

    But there's a high level issue of rewards not requiring a certain level of effort, and that level is slowly sinking as time passes. People wonder why they get bored of this game, especially at a casual level.
    I got the Firelands staff as off-spec on my resto druid.. I wouldn't say this was so hard to get... the "effort" was to motivate people to still go in Firelands after Dragon Soul was released.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkfriend View Post
    The solo part was hard? I think it took me 5 minutes. You just can't be braindead. Although granted, most of LFR ARE braindead.
    The reported difficulty of the challenges is all over the place.

    People rocking 538+ averages say it's cake while others in similar gear say it's hard (proof yet again that gear doesn't mean you're better)
    People in 515 almost all find it hard since their gear deficit means their personal performance is the primary factor in winning - and yet the good ones manage to complete it while the stereotypical LFRtards won't be able to.

    So yeah - if an LFR person manages to complete the solo challenge, they've earned their cloak and therefore their shot at the legendary at least as much as the heroic raider for whom it was barely a challenge at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taurenguard View Post
    Respect to you man for the bold part , it is very true the only people QQ-ing are the butthurt normal mode raiders. The hardcore crowd and the LFR crowd don't give a shit. I feel very bad for them. Can't wait for flexweave mode to be the new LFR in terms of hatred/anger issues

    People should get rewarded for the efford they put in no matter what. All the people who say LFR is AFK-fest or w/e are talking bullshit. Sure some idiot healers or dps can afk but me as Main tank no, just no. I always performed good in my LFR runs and people actually were glad that I joined them. So according to some people I should not get my legendary (who puts in effort, sweat, tears raiding with all these terrible pug people) just because of some AFK scrubs? Sorry but thats a stereotype, either blizz needs to fix the afk issues or everyone in LFR should get anything out of it incl. the legendary simply because that is not a community issue but rather a broken system. Sorry for a long paragraph but I want to point something out.

    PS. Sorry if there's grammar mistakes, I'm not british/american. Also I'm too lazy to google every single word I don't know
    no the hardcore raiders still think it shouldn't be LFR. normal mode is fine if its slower like firelands. but giving 40k dps LFR heroes who can't even gem there shit and afk. Its a fucking embaressment. to see the weapon you worked so hard to get on some POS like that. But w/e not like it really matters we will clear our content and then play this game 1 day a week cause overall wow is a pretty crappy game as of late that most of us only play for the progression scene.
    Last edited by momirmaster; 2013-06-20 at 09:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by momirmaster View Post
    no the hardcore raiders still think it shouldn't be LFR. normal mode is fine if its slower like firelands. but giving 40k dps LFR heroes who can't even gem there shit and afk. Its a fucking embaressment. to see the weapon you worked so hard to get on some POS like that. But w/e not like it really matters we will clear our content and then play this game 1 day a week cause overall wow is a pretty crappy game as of late that most of us only play for the progression scene.
    Those 40k dps LFR heroes don't have a prayer of completing the Celestial Blessing challenge. They won't see the legendary 'til next xpac, so quit whining.

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