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---------- Post added 2013-06-21 at 09:22 AM ----------
"It’s not the job of the artist to give the audience what the audience wants. If the audience knew what they needed, then they wouldn’t be the audience. They would be the artists. It is the job of artists to give the audience what they need."
— Alan Moore
Removing key item's and benefits from LFR will only please 0.01% of the player base. You must have accepted by now that LFR is just a 3rd difficulty.
LFR is the best thing in wow since LFD, it means I don't have to spent my whole afternoon looking for a group.
I think the LFR crowd will get a legendary wether you like it or not, most likely much later than normal/hc raiders. I see it as smarter version of annual pass.
(I haven't reached the Celestial part yet, on Titan Runestones now, so my opinion is based on the one to get a Meta gem)
BTW, how much more difficult is the one for a cloak?
Last edited by Demoneq; 2013-06-21 at 07:52 AM. Reason: Fixing a typo.
It goes as with phrasing "everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others". History shows that such approach always ends horribly.I think we should get a item "ala original "breath of heaven from 5.0 beta" that increases the ilvl of a weapon by 8-10 and adds a proc and turns it orange. so then LFR gets LFR legendary normal gets normal legendary and heroic gets heroic legendary.
Meh, that's just another LFR-hateful thread with many people being victims of new religious sect, based on "Others should pray to us, kneel to us and lick our boots, thus noone should get [insert "legendary", "gear with comparable power", etc.] except us". Exaggerated, but many posters have obvious psychopathological disorder megalomania and can't comprehend that if game will go in the direction they want, they will have noone to play with anymore.
On the other hand the items have to have a certain level to fulfill their purpose in granting casuals and alts a possibility to catch up with the rest to get ready for real raiding or at least give casuals the possibility to stay competitive. It does not make sense if the items are below 495 since you won't be able to successfully do a heroic scenario then which should be open to everyone.
You are narrowminded if you think getting a legendary through LFR takes more work. Create a guild that raids heroic mode and get a clue. Obviously some people here have no clue how much work it takes and they never will.Ofcourse it affects everyone. Value (personal and cultural value?) will drop. When everyone is a legend then being a legend is worth less. Maybe in your opinion it doesn't affect you but you can't say it doesn't affect anyone else.
But anyway. I have a feeling you will be able to get one through LFR.
And read what you are typing. A heroic raider gets it faster because he/she can do LFR and heroic mode. That's faster obviously because they play more but it's still more work than only slacking in LFR and not having to communicate with anyone or organise anything.
Last edited by Gilian; 2013-06-21 at 09:47 AM.
You get one chance at a boss per week. It's irrelevant whether you use your chance in LFR mode or normal/hc difficulties. A heroic raider doesn't have an advantage in this case other than not having been gated during the first few weeks and therefore having had earlier access to more bosses.
I still feel Legendaries should be hard earned by skill and not RNG/shitty collecting quests.
In a way that Challenge Modes are but not exclusive to a raid group, 5 mans or solo questing. More so, an amalgamation of the three.
But if you want players to have fleeting interest in a Legendary for a few weeks because it's not special then that's cool too.
I must say that your casual guild was very good since only 1% of ppl saw Sunwell Plateau. And since you got there by raiding only six hours a week then we can say that it didn't involve too much time like many people say it did.
Anyways, my point was that the effort was spread across multiple tiers and not like many here say only for dumb luck with killing Illidan or Kil'jaiden. It was a journey, which I believe, was much harder then today's LFR or normal journey.
And before someone jumps to conclusion that I don't want LFR people to get legendaries I am against that everyone who raids gets legendaries - that includes normal and heroic raiders too. They should be rare, hard to get and took quite some time to obtain. After the tier is over, happy hunting for legendaries.
I believed Blizz shared my PoV since they don't allow xmog of legendaries because you would see hordes of ppl running around with Glaives or maces and that would destroy their legendary status.
As others pointed out the quests between the raidfarms are the only solo work and you seriously claim with ilevel535 you work harder as i did with 502?
ROFLMAO.... btw kiddo I was in Nax when you was a wet dream so come again in 10 years when you have a life afk...
Oh and you didnt pointed out why this all concerns a young toddler like you? you allways talk about hc raiders like your in the top 3 of hc progress and would count at all but you dont???
Infracted; Don't attack other posters.
Last edited by Sonnillon; 2013-06-22 at 10:07 AM.
If you don't know what you're talking about you really shouldn't talk about raiding, Drudatz. It's quite clear you have no idea of the current problems/issues the "hardcore" raiding community face so please just stop?
Also it's really annoying to have some idiots patronise me and say that I don't need to do LFR in t16 or Flex in t16 because I'm fully 543+ geared (2/2 upgrades, et al). That's really insulting because for some classes the new 4 pc is so ridiculously OP that you'll need to be in LFR week in, week out, just to get the absurd bonus that occurs. Not to mention that itemization will most likely be BiS for t16 as well, as well as the extra secondary stat on all items AND more gem sockets. Heroic raiders will be running LFR/Flex next tier. Stop saying we wont. You've no idea what you're talking about.