Question about "American" tv?

[TirielWoW]

Men enjoy much more seeing a naked woman than the opposite.
I mean, i know some guys who watch Spartacus just to see some boobies and vaginas.
Also, society values ​​much more feminine beauty than the male beauty, actually male body is considered ugly. So showing a naked woman will be more profitable than showing a naked man.

The male body is ugly?

I learn so much on these forums. o_o

[Exaelitus]

You do occasionally see male frontal nudity. I think a small reason for that is that you can show full frontal female nudity without actually showing much. You can see plenty of penis in Spartacus on Showtime, and even in movies like The Hangover 2. In Spartacus, you even get to see a dudes genitals after the shaft is chopped off. In contrast, when they show full female frontal views, you never actually see the giblets, just the bush.

[Kalis]

Why is nude on tv something weird?? Personally im more shocked to see some guy getting gunned down, or some bloody corpses lying on the ground.
Fun fact, the most successful political poster in the netherlands was some naked girl standing infront of a cow...
(im not sure if this pic is allowed, if not could a mod plz delete it..)

You'd probably be better off linking to it.

Is it from the 70s?

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You'd probably be better off linking to it.

Is it from the 70s?

yea good plan, ill fix it in a sec, but i think it was either the 70's or the 80's idd

[Stir]

The male body is ugly?

I learn so much on these forums. o_o

The male body is often considered to be ugly, yes. I don't agree with it, personally, but we live in a society where, overall, 'fine' features are appreciated, and the male angular roughness is (generally) not. It may be a form that is often admired for its practicality or show of strength, but hardly ever for its beauty.

This line of reasoning is going so far, even, that stick-figure males are often considered to be more beautiful than their more broad-shouldered, deep-chested counterparts.

So yeah; the public opinion is pretty much: Women can be beautiful/pretty, and men much less so. Handsome, perhaps, but when is the last time you heard a male described as 'pretty?'

[Antbregante]

For those thinking there is not enough penis on tv shows there is always Oz.

[Catta]

So i googled my question but i couldn't find anything. I called it American tv but i think it's in Brittain aswell or atleast that's where i asume the series come from! [b]Sorry if this offends anyone, I don't mean to.[/i]
But the question is When i watch series such as Game of Thrones or True Blood i see women naked showing pretty much everything, ofcourse not detailed such as in adult movies~ but rather exposed still. But you don't really see men naked more than showing their chest and sometimes a butt.

Is there any reason for this? sorry if this is a stupid question but i'm really curious

Have you seen Spartacus?

Anyway, men dont have non-genitalia sexual "organs" to show off like women.


Also did you not see Hodor running naked?

[hawtlol]

If you've watched one episode of Spartacus, you've seen enough dick on TV for your lifetime.


EDIT: Post above is a wizard^

[igualitarist]

The male body is ugly?

I learn so much on these forums. o_o

I didn't say it's ugly, i said it is considered something ugly. At least for the majority of people i know.
seriously, almost every woman i know consider the female body much more beautiful than the male body

[Korgoth]

You do occasionally see male frontal nudity. I think a small reason for that is that you can show full frontal female nudity without actually showing much. You can see plenty of penis in Spartacus on Showtime, and even in movies like The Hangover 2. In Spartacus, you even get to see a dudes genitals after the shaft is chopped off. In contrast, when they show full female frontal views, you never actually see the giblets, just the bush.

Yeah why arent they waxing in ancient Rome! Maybe shave in a nice S.

I think the lack of male nudity is more perceived then reality. Of the shows on Networks that actually have nudity, HBO, Starz..., I think you still see male nudity a lot more then you'd think.

But then maybe America just doesnt have the love for cock that the EU does.

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yea good plan, ill fix it in a sec, but i think it was either the 70's or the 80's idd

just checked it, it was 1970 idd

[TirielWoW]

The male body is often considered to be ugly, yes. I don't agree with it, personally, but we live in a society where, overall, 'fine' features are appreciated, and the male angular roughness is (generally) not. It may be a form that is often admired for its practicality or show of strength, but hardly ever for its beauty.

This line of reasoning is going so far, even, that stick-figure males are often considered to be more beautiful than their more broad-shouldered, deep-chested counterparts.

So yeah; the public opinion is pretty much: Women can be beautiful/pretty, and men much less so. Handsome, perhaps, but when is the last time you heard a male described as 'pretty?'

Men don't like to be described as "pretty" last time I checked. It insults them, and calls into question their "masculinity." Handsome is basically the same thing as pretty, it's just a more masculine term.

I didn't say it's ugly, i said it is considered something ugly. At least for the majority of people i know.
seriously, almost every woman i know consider the female body much more beautiful than the male body

Okay...please forgive my language. Women are pretty. Their bodies are aesthetically pleasing. But I don't want to have sex with those bodies. Because they're women, and I'm straight.

Men are hot, and I think their bodies are very attractive.

[Kalis]

just checked it, it was 1970 idd

Was there a reason for the cow? Or for that matter the naked woman? Was it the Green Party, or the Dutch 70s equivalent?

[chrisberb]

I think it depends on the channel..ie the execs or whatever.
HBO may not show full frontal nudity of men, but if you've ever watched Spartacus on STARZ network, you've seen quite a bit.

[Korgoth]

I think it depends on the channel..ie the execs or whatever.
HBO may not show full frontal nudity of men, but if you've ever watched Spartacus on STARZ network, you've seen quite a bit.

Oh HBO does, even the same full frontal Roman nudity. Go watch Rome.

[Deleted]

Was there a reason for the cow? Or for that matter the naked woman? Was it the Green Party, or the Dutch 70s equivalent?

No not really, i think it was just a serious case of to many mushrooms on a party meeting. I believe they where left, but didnt have anything special with either cows or grass (well they might have with that one) or anything green.

But i do have to state that i like that old poster much much better then the newer ones...
http://www.prodemos.nl/Kenniscentrum...saffiches-2012
I think the guy from D66 is really scary

[igualitarist]

Okay...please forgive my language. Women are pretty. Their bodies are aesthetically pleasing. But I don't want to have sex with those bodies. Because they're women, and I'm straight.

Men are hot, and I think their bodies are very attractive.

Yeah, thats normal. I am a straight male and i have no problems thinking a man has a nice body. A healthy male body can be very aesthetically pleasing too.
But the socity we live in "worships" the female body, while the opposite doesn't happen.

[Dakia]

If you've watched one episode of Spartacus, you've seen enough dick on TV for your lifetime.


EDIT: Post above is a wizard^

Indeed.

Additionally, think of the target audience for such programming. I'm fairly certain that the target audience for shows like GoT, Spartacus, etc isn't females. One consideration to think about as well is that these specialty channels got their start offering programming that was basically softcore porn at late night, movies during the day and boxing. This was during the time period when the internet wasn't really a big factor and it, in all honesty, was a selling point for the channels.

[hawtlol]

Yeah, thats normal. I am a straight male and i have no problems thinking a man has a nice body. A healthy male body can be very aesthetically pleasing too.
But the socity we live in "worships" the female body, while the opposite doesn't happen.

This guy gets it.

[Stir]

Men don't like to be described as "pretty" last time I checked. It insults them, and calls into question their "masculinity." Handsome is basically the same thing as pretty, it's just a more masculine term.

I know this is true for a lot of males... But I think that just makes the whole 'problem' (as I perceive it, at least) larger. 'Masculinity' shouldn't just be 'proud to have no value other than the exertion of control.' Or rather: Maybe terms like 'masculinity' and 'femininity' are simply no longer needed, and should simply vanish.

Okay...please forgive my language. Women are pretty. Their bodies are aesthetically pleasing. But I don't want to have sex with those bodies. Because they're women, and I'm straight.

And in her day, the Rubens Vrouw was aesthetically pleasing and pretty. I doubt it's an actual personal opinion... I think it's more to do with cultural portrayal of bodies than anything else.