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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Wildtree View Post
    Sorry OP, you are screwed. Also, didn't it appear very fishy to you in the first place? 26k gold for $25.00 worth of product?
    That's a steal right there..
    If it sounds too good to be true, it is not true.
    I have aquired a guardian cub on AH for 3k several months ago, someone has paid 10 euro for it I just thought that people who wanna have gold can spend a lot of real money for it and this guy have just spent a bit more but as exchange the guardian cub guy lose more..

  2. #22
    Of course they just care about money, what's wrong with you, where have you been?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baelfire View Post
    this is not the case
    III. Limitations on Your Use of World of Warcraft.
    (5) buy or sell for "real" money or exchange gold, weapons, armor, or any other virtual items that may be used in World of Warcraft outside the World of Warcraft platform
    Is it this?
    2. Rules Related to "Chat", Interaction With Other Users or With Blizzard Entertainment Representatives. When engaging in Chat in World of Warcraft, or otherwise utilizing World of Warcraft, you may not:
    (9) Participate in any action that, in the sole and absolute opinion of Blizzard Entertainment, results or may result in an authorized user of World of Warcraft being "scammed" or defrauded out of gold, weapons, armor, or any other items that user has earned through authorized game play in World of Warcraft.

    So i cannot buy for real money anything to use ingame and it's not the case.
    And I cannot act in order to scam anyone but in this case I was scammed, ok not for an in game item for a blizzard store one but it si not mentioned in TOU or I didn't find
    You can buy something that is applied directly to your account to be used in game.

    You cannot buy something and apply it to another players account or sell it unless the store allows you to gift it.
    You also can't purchase something for in game gold that was originally bought outside the game.

    If you were to buy a cool item or gold at an auction website and spend say $200 and the person never delivered the goods Blizzard would do nothing as well.

    If the bloodwing mount turned into an item that could be traded or sold on the Auction House then it would be fair game but it's not. Blizzard has done this once, with a pet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baelfire View Post
    I have aquired a guardian cub on AH for 3k several months ago, someone has paid 10 euro for it I just thought that people who wanna have gold can spend a lot of real money for it and this guy have just spent a bit more but as exchange the guardian cub guy lose more..
    You piad in game gold for an in game ITEM.


    How hard is it to understand. You can't trade in game stuff for out of game stuff.


    If you can't make the trade using the trade window, it isn't supported.

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by hitandruntactic View Post
    Don't forget, TCG mounts are BoE specifically to prevent trading gold for the code, which is against ToS. You do not need the code for TCG mounts because you can trade the mount, directly, in-game for gold, making it an in-game transaction. OP broke ToS. Live and learn.
    That's right I'm not saying that I'm fully right I acted as a noob because I thought was possible, but in the specific I just say that I have not strictly violate the TOU so I should be refunded, mount or money, in the case for what they havewritten they should refund the object.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baelfire View Post
    I have aquired a guardian cub on AH for 3k several months ago, someone has paid 10 euro for it I just thought that people who wanna have gold can spend a lot of real money for it and this guy have just spent a bit more but as exchange the guardian cub guy lose more..
    The difference is this is not a code. It's an actual item in the game which you can sell. The seller can't sell it for 24 hours and after 24 hours it's non refundable. The seller also can't remove it from your character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baelfire View Post
    That's right I'm not saying that I'm fully right I acted as a noob because I thought was possible, but in the specific I just say that I have not strictly violate the TOU so I should be refunded, mount or money, in the case for what they havewritten they should refund the object.
    You were sold a code and not a physical item in game. The player can't trade it or put in on the AH. You got scammed big time but there's not much you can do about it. Technically Blizzard could ban you for this transaction but they know your 27k loss is probably punishment enough.

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Baelfire View Post
    That's right I'm not saying that I'm fully right I acted as a noob because I thought was possible, but in the specific I just say that I have not strictly violate the TOU so I should be refunded, mount or money, in the case for what they havewritten they should refund the object.
    The problem is that ignorance of the law is not an excuse to break it, even if you didn't mean to or didn't want to. What it all boils down to is that you paid for something in game that was against the TOS and therefore forfeited both the gold and the item in question. Sometimes you need to ask questions before making such purchases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baelfire View Post
    That's right I'm not saying that I'm fully right I acted as a noob because I thought was possible, but in the specific I just say that I have not strictly violate the TOU so I should be refunded, mount or money, in the case for what they havewritten they should refund the object.
    You did violate the ToS and should not be refunded the gold or the mount. What are you not getting? You gave your gold to a scammer; they have your gold, not Blizzard, said gold might not even be on that toon or account any more. Because you willingly gave it to the scammer, as opposed to being hacked and having it stolen, they won't refund it. You took the risk, buyer beware. You certainly shouldn't get the mount. That's where the term violation was. You gave gold, willingly, for a code. You're not entitled to a refund; there's nothing to refund.

    In the real world, if you buy stolen merchandise from a shifty seller, unaware that it was stolen, when the police come, they confiscate the stolen item and they do not cut you a check for the amount you paid. That money is lost and there is no legal obligation, even on the seller of the stolen wares, to refund it.

  9. #29
    Day by day more people fall for this and more will.

    Their is a topic on the official forums and it was in the launcher also for bit.

    Funny tho i copied what one spammer on my realm was spitting out and fired it out also a few time for a lol and was surprised at how many people /w me back asking how much, so many thick fuckers out their no wonder they keep doing it.

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    Blizzard does not recognize any purported transfers of virtual property executed outside of the Game, or the purported sale, gift or trade in the “real world” of anything that appears or originates in the Game. Accordingly, you may not sell in-game items or currency for “real” money, or exchange those items or currency for value outside of the Game. [/QUOTE]

    item or currency for real money or value outside the game, in my opinion i exchanged currency for value inside the game and I RECEIVED, if he give me a code that don't work a I give him the money before I agree that i was totally wrong but as the code worked i suppose that everything was good, the problem is that the day after it was cancelled

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquilonias View Post
    Funny tho i copied what one spammer on my realm was spitting out and fired it out also a few time for a lol and was surprised at how many people /w me back asking how much, so many thick fuckers out their no wonder they keep doing it.
    and if Blizz capitulates to outrageous QQ demands, like those of OP, even more will do it cause there's 0 risk on them for being dumb and violating the rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baelfire View Post
    Blizzard does not recognize any purported transfers of virtual property executed outside of the Game, or the purported sale, gift or trade in the “real world” of anything that appears or originates in the Game. Accordingly, you may not sell in-game items or currency for “real” money, or exchange those items or currency for value outside of the Game.

    item or currency for real money or value outside the game, in my opinion i exchanged currency for value inside the game and I RECEIVED, if he give me a code that don't work a I give him the money before I agree that i was totally wrong but as the code worked i suppose that everything was good, the problem is that the day after it was cancelled
    In this case your opinion is wrong. He could have just as easily given you that code over vent or some other program.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baelfire View Post
    item or currency for real money or value outside the game, in my opinion i exchanged currency for value inside the game and I RECEIVED, if he give me a code that don't work a I give him the money before I agree that i was totally wrong but as the code worked i suppose that everything was good, the problem is that the day after it was cancelled
    You want to keep arguing as if you're right in any capacity. EMPIRICALLY you paid 26000 gold for $25 in merchandise. You gave gold for a CODE, the CODE is not redeemable inside the game its redeemed OUTSIDE the game. You did not open your in-game mail and receive an item [Blizz Store Item Code] then took it to an NPC and entered it in. If you buy a TCG mount CODE for gold you are violating the ToS. But TCG mounts can be sold IN GAME as an IN GAME ITEM which is the difference; this bat cannot be sold as an IN-GAME ITEM, thats not its intent. It's purchased outside the game for $25. Just cause you lack the ability to connect the dots and need it spelled out for you doesn't make you right. I suppose you are one of those people that need warnings "Caution: Cook top may be hot while stove is in use" because you can't quite put together how the cooktop could be hot when the heating element is cycling.

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    you broke the rules and you expect them to help you?

  15. #35
    You certainly are a "noob". Doesn't change that Blizzard should take more care of these things but decides it's not worth the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cFortyfive View Post
    You certainly are a "noob". Doesn't change that Blizzard should take more care of these things but decides it's not worth the money.
    the only thing refunding fools with their easily separated gold will do is greenlight stupid, reckless behaviour. Blizz didn't ban him, they did their part.

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    Buying a Blizzard store mount from someone else is against the Terms of Service. You broke the rules, you deserve to be punished for it.
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  18. #38
    What exactly do you hope to prove by posting here OP? You throwing a tantrum and threatening to quit isn't going to gain you any support so why are you still trying to argue with us?

    We are telling you what happened, you broke the rules, got scammed and Blizzard will not give you your money back.

  19. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by hitandruntactic View Post
    the only thing refunding fools with their easily separated gold will do is greenlight stupid, reckless behaviour. Blizz didn't ban him, they did their part.
    Is your reading comprehension lacking or something ? Where did I state that he should be refunded ? Blizzard should better police tos violations in chats but decides not to.

  20. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Baelfire View Post
    Accordingly, you may not sell in-game items or currency for “real” money, or exchange those items or currency for value outside of the Game.

    item or currency for real money or value outside the game, in my opinion i exchanged currency for value inside the game and I RECEIVED, if he give me a code that don't work a I give him the money before I agree that i was totally wrong but as the code worked i suppose that everything was good, the problem is that the day after it was cancelled
    You exchanged gold for a code that you redeemed outside of the game, which then provided you with an in-game item. The code itself has no value inside the limits of the game.

    The reason the bat code worked is that some unsuspecting user had there account information stolen and a gold seller was selling bat codes as fast as he could to get gold in-game so he could use that gold to entice other users to give them their account information...rinse, repeat.

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