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  1. #41
    The reason WoW never has been and never will be an e-sport is very simple actually.

    WoW arena is not good PVP in any way, to watch or even to play.

    It's entirely UI driven and has no early/mid/late game or interesting meta. The classes are very unbalanced, the gameplay is stilted and gear-driven - basically it's garbage.

    The only people who care about WoW PVP are people who play WoW, and even then very few as most WoW players are casual PVE players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xarim View Post
    The reason WoW never has been and never will be an e-sport is very simple actually.

    WoW arena is not good PVP in any way, to watch or even to play.

    It's entirely UI driven and has no early/mid/late game or interesting meta. The classes are very unbalanced, the gameplay is stilted and gear-driven - basically it's garbage.

    The only people who care about WoW PVP are people who play WoW, and even then very few as most WoW players are casual PVE players.
    I guess you missed the part where it already was a decently successful e-sport for a few years.

  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by StormiNL View Post
    Blizzard should focus on stopping buffing one class for most people rolling to that and balance pvp out.
    Thats absolutely not True. Like for Example Resto Druids didn't do so well and they got lots of Buffs. Monks weren't much represented either, and they got a strong Silence&Disarm Talent and a free Trinket Baseline Spell. Don't forget Warriors also who had a rought time in Cata so Blizzard gave them strong Abilities and they owned Arenas in Mists for a while.
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    And this is only a good thing. Many classes suffered from stupid bullshit balancing decisions by Blizzard when they tried to keep arena as an E-sport.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shipley View Post
    More classes than there ever was. Only like 3-4 classes/specs in wotlk.
    No, not at all. In Wrath there was literally DOUBLE the specs you could play, some classes even had all 3 specs as viable. It was much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fincher View Post
    Thats absolutely not True. Like for Example Resto Druids didn't do so well and they got lots of Buffs. Monks weren't much represented either, and they got a strong Silence&Disarm Talent and a free Trinket Baseline Spell. Don't forget Warriors also who had a rought time in Cata so Blizzard gave them strong Abilities and they owned Arenas in Mists for a while.
    Yeah, but they're never decent buffs. They're either still to weak or they get overbuffed to oblivion (Warriors), they never hit the sweet spot. If they listened to the proper beta/ptr feedback from high rated PvPers then it would be a lot better.

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    Wow PvP isn't an esport because you can't tell what the fuck is going on if you've never played the game.

    All you see is a bunch of numbers and people not dying.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wilian View Post
    And this is only a good thing. Many classes suffered from stupid bullshit balancing decisions by Blizzard when they tried to keep arena as an E-sport.
    actually

    many consider WOTLK to be the apex of this game's history. id play a warrior from any season of wrath over the shit that we are playing now. i used to have things to manage, now i can roll my face across the fucking keyboard and get results.

    anyone who doesn't think this game hasn't gone down the drain is in denial

    it's not bad enough to stop playing, but it will never be as great as it once was. if it ever is, i will punch myself in the testicles repeatedly and admit that i am the stupidest person on the face of the planet earth.
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  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Helltrixz View Post
    Rmp was shitty at the start because priests shielded for 5k and after bomb duration got lowered, so rmp was never really overpowered in s9. Or maybe I just countered it with fls and mls, but I don't remember any high rmps in s9.
    didn't matter we were never on D, things just died in TW. as long as the shield up for rogue to re-stealth through dots we could stop anything else with pressure.

    anyways, s9 lasted long after the fix, ladders fixed themselves.

    After that patch RMP wasnt the same.. was still good though, just not abusive.

    that was essentially the point.. it got fixed fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogawdspider View Post
    I disagree with this a lot. There are constant changes revolving around pvp.. PVP is also the only thing about wow that they can turn into an E sport.. They wold have little to no luck trying to turn raiding into a professional competition.
    You really dont think that Wow is a PVE based game first and Pvp second? Are you for real? Blizzard implemented the free resilence trying to get more people to PVP, guess why? People aren't Pvping, they are running lfr or raiding, or something else besides Pvp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lulbalance View Post
    uhm..pretty sure the highest rated team in the world that patch was khuna's RMP by miles until reckful's RLS went super sayen 117 - 4.

    i ran it.. it was god mode with TW and endless cc before that mini patch 4.06 or whatever patch that was, didnt matter what the priest shielded for we were never on D. s9 lasted long after the fix, ladders fixed themselves.

    After that patch RMP wasnt the same.. was still good though, just not abusive.

    that was essentially the point.. it got fixed fast.
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