Are Alliance the cool underdog faction now?

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So Horde went from being the ugly looking band of brothers, to elitist neckbeards, to a pile of Blood Elves

Has Alliance has gone from the stereotype of immature 12 year olds, to casual players, to actually kinda cool forces of light n justice and all that?

Remember, im only asking about the stereotypes, I know both players of both factions are exactly the same.

[TheBigPapi]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say no...

[Holtzmann]

Nope, they're still the faction with the Gnomes. I like Gnomes, but being associated with them seems to be a sin in most gaming groups.

The Horde are still the faction with the "FOR THE HORDE" warcry, while the Alliance is still stuck with no actual awesome warcry. I think most go with "NOT THE FACE!".

[Dristereau]

Not really. Night Elf Male Hunters still have the stereotype to me of being Noobs. Also nothing amazing happens with the Alliance in game, and the Horde has Lor'themar Theron. Nothing that appealing to be Alliance beyond you can play as Human Also I get to kill Goblins, and I personally despise them more than Gnomes.

[Deleted]

I am a Horde player, but I don't disrespect the Alliance. They cannot be the underdog since Azeroth mostly belongs to them, Horde are the shattered tribes of "low" lives, nothing can change that since Azeroth was always ruled by the Alliance, even the Night Elves before they joined the Alliance had a overlook over Kalimdor, they were always united and strong where's Horde was/will always be "the alien one".

[Thallidomaniac]

Nope. Because of things such as Moon Guard Goldshire still existing, and Alliance lagging in endgame PvE progression, which is clearly due to lack of gameplay capability by Alliance players, something Horde players clearly have instead.

[Trassk]

Are alliance the cool..

no.

until your faction has been thrown into slave camps, forced to live in its own shit, able to build up a city from nothing but desert, and find a common goal with races that otherwise wouldn't have a common goal, then alliance are just... average, generic, and wannabes.

[Hellfury]

Alliance still has shit lore and not that appealing races, worst overall racials ment that a massive exodus of raiding guild went horde, and blizzard still hasnt acknowledge that.

Nevertheless, atlest in Europe, alliance overall experience is increased exponentially over the years as players

But all being said there is all kinds of players everywhere

Nope. Because of things such as Moon Guard Goldshire still existing, and Alliance lagging in endgame PvE progression, which is clearly due to lack of gameplay capability by Alliance players, something Horde players clearly have instead.

Right, the actual top guild was alliance last expansion that went horde to capitalize on racials.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Lore-wise the Alliance has been underdogs since 4.0.

Gameplay-wise Alliance has been underdogs since Wrath.

[Deleted]

no.

until your faction has been thrown into slave camps, forced to live in its own shit, able to build up a city from nothing but desert, and find a common goal with races that otherwise wouldn't have a common goal, then alliance are just... average, generic, and wannabes.

....draenei?

(I play Horde Btw)

[Hellfury]

no.

until your faction has been thrown into slave camps, forced to live in its own shit, able to build up a city from nothing but desert, and find a common goal with races that otherwise wouldn't have a common goal, then alliance are just... average, generic, and wannabes.

You living in the past, orcs might had been that they aren't anymore, 5.3(hint)

[Thallidomaniac]

Right, the actual top guild was alliance last expansion that went horde to capitalize on racials.

And note also that due to most of the raiding player base being Horde, being an Alliance raiding guild is just doing you a disservice in terms of the player pool. And the smaller player pool on the Alliance side were probably bad players that would not be capable of raiding on a competent level.

....draenei?

(I play Horde Btw)

Alliance propaganda clearly at work. Just like those women that make false claims of getting raped just to get someone in jail and get their monies.

[Hellfury]

And note also that due to most of the raiding player base being Horde, being an Alliance raiding guild is just doing you a disservice in terms of the player pool. And the smaller player pool on the Alliance side were probably bad players that would not be capable of raiding on a competent level.

true, but its a catch22 most raiders are horde cause they racials are better

[Deleted]

Alliance propaganda clearly at work. Just like those women that make false claims of getting raped just to get someone in jail and get their monies.

Could that even be a thing in the lore?

[Trassk]

....draenei?

(I play Horde Btw)

give you that, but really, it just means the draenei are the only humble race within the alliance, that and perhaps the worgen.

[Deleted]

no.

until your faction has been thrown into slave camps, forced to live in its own shit, able to build up a city from nothing but desert, and find a common goal with races that otherwise wouldn't have a common goal, then alliance are just... average, generic, and wannabes.

Well, with all due respect and not downplaying what the Horde has had to endure, don't forget that humans have recently gone through two genocides and rebuilt their destroyed kindgoms from the ashes, gnomes and worgen have been driven from their homes, draenei have been forced to live in constant exile and being hunted down by the orcs, demons and blood elves alike. And still the Alliance, too, has endured.

[Gingercrab]

Nope. Not really.

[Trassk]

You would need to have the alliance pretty much crushed by the horde in every aspect, and then have it rise up as a faction and fight to survive again.

[ShadowJester]

The alliance might be the underdog faction, IDK i cant really speak to that, but I can assure you, they are definitely not the cool faction. They are never going to be the cool faction. Gnome way, gnome how

[kendro1200]

no.

until your faction has been thrown into slave camps, forced to live in its own shit, able to build up a city from nothing but desert, and find a common goal with races that otherwise wouldn't have a common goal, then alliance are just... average, generic, and wannabes.

Orcs weren't in slave camps, they were in internment camps, huge difference. The difference being that the Orcs never did any labor really, the humans never really trusted them to (not that most of the orcs in the camps could even actually perform any form of labor thanks to withdrawal). They were just kept in a spot and provided for. As for the "living in its own crap" part, that was more of an issue with withdrawal from consuming demon blood than something that was forced upon the orcs. Sure some orcs were used for gladiatorial matches, that was a desperate effort of those in charge of the camps to meet the cost needs when the government requiring the camps started to withdraw tax support to keep them running. Gladiatorial matches are things the current Horde, most particularly the Orcs have practiced in the open for many years.


As to the OP of, "Is the Alliance the cool underdog now?" No, the Alliance is still poorly off, the Alliance won't be a cool underdog until it is written as such. For the moment it's still being written as the pompous, established system, with the Horde being the underdog, despite the Horde actually controlling more territory at the moment.
One thing to also note is the Alliance is full of largely alien survivors. Humans, Gnomes and Dwarves are all alien constructs that survived the curse of flesh. Night Elves are the surviving result of Trolls being irradiated by the Well of Eternity. Draenei are probably the only real current underdog in all of WoW. They've been hunted to near extinction several times over (Orcs in particular are responsible for nearly wiping them out most recently). Azeroth is the first home they've been to where they haven't been chased down and killed shortly after arriving. Then there are the Gilneans, outlived the Scourge plague, most notably they outlived the entire rise and fall of Arthas, Paladin, Death Knight and Lich King without losing their kingdom. The Gilneans survived a full out Horde assault shortly after the Cataclysm and in the middle of a Worgen outbreak.
So yeah, Alliance may not be cool, but technically they are the only real survivor faction. Orcs were spared by the Draenei (could have wiped them out the moment they landed on Draenor) and then saved and spared by humans. Trolls and Tauren were saved by Orcs. Forsaken were created by the Lich King and continue on out of spite for their undeath that was thrust upon them. Blood Elves, and slightly with Goblins, can be argued as the only real survivors out of the Horde. High Elves survived near extinction by the Scourge and Garithos, and the Goblins of Kezan survived the complete destruction of their home, shipwreck on an island and onslaught from Alliance forces.
But yeah, Alliance, still not cool. =/ We would have been better off with WC3 Night Elves and not the WoW Night Elves that showed up in Vanilla. WC3 Night Elves would have removed the Horde foothold in Ashenvale asap.