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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pasture View Post
    That would just ignore the problem. Mastery just keeps the shield rolling. Reducing the hot doesn't stop that.

    The problem is neither does this change. It just makes us worse at actually healing and pushes a higher proportion onto the shield rolling. Utterly senseless.
    I did word it incorrectly I apologise, I meant that mastery has a reduced effect on the HoT which im sure has already been suggested before, rather than not applying completely.

  2. #82
    I've done a bit of testing on the PTR

    EF initial hit lowered by 30%, WoG not affected
    No mastery shield from EF
    No mastery shield from Light's Hammer
    No mastery shield from Execution Sentence

    Mastery is still the same 480 rating to reach 1%

    Overall the entire changes account to ~30-35% nerf to Holy Paladin Healing.
    No compensation.

  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by Aladya View Post
    I've done a bit of testing on the PTR

    EF initial hit lowered by 30%, WoG not affected
    No mastery shield from EF
    No mastery shield from Light's Hammer
    No mastery shield from Execution Sentence

    Mastery is still the same 480 rating to reach 1%

    Overall the entire changes account to ~30-35% nerf to Holy Paladin Healing.
    No compensation.
    No mastery shield from the initial EF heal or the HoT as well? And why the hell the nerf to Lights Hammer?

    What a fucking joke.

  4. #84
    The initial(nerfed) Ef application still procs mastery. No LH/Execution Sentence ticks proc mastery

  5. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by Aladya View Post
    I've done a bit of testing on the PTR

    EF initial hit lowered by 30%, WoG not affected
    No mastery shield from EF
    No mastery shield from Light's Hammer
    No mastery shield from Execution Sentence

    Mastery is still the same 480 rating to reach 1%

    Overall the entire changes account to ~30-35% nerf to Holy Paladin Healing.
    No compensation.
    I don't understand what they're doing.... why nerf EF if you're taking away the ability for it to shield anyway? It's like they're taking a wrecking ball to Holy.

  6. #86
    Time to get the pitchforks... this is just so unacceptable I have no words.

    I really really hope something is just missing and we're getting a partial picture.

  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aladya View Post
    I've done a bit of testing on the PTR

    EF initial hit lowered by 30%, WoG not affected
    No mastery shield from EF
    No mastery shield from Light's Hammer
    No mastery shield from Execution Sentence

    Mastery is still the same 480 rating to reach 1%

    Overall the entire changes account to ~30-35% nerf to Holy Paladin Healing.
    No compensation.
    Eternal Flame's now simply worse than WoG period, it's a trap talent IMO.

    Reroll inc

  8. #88
    And take what instead? Sacred Shield? Go back to judging for SH procs?

    I'm at least going to get a serious back-up plan working. This is awful.

  9. #89
    Bring the player and not spec (except holy paladins). I suppose it's time to keep my monk available in case they actually realize what they are doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucyrotten View Post
    And take what instead? Sacred Shield? Go back to judging for SH procs?

    I'm at least going to get a serious back-up plan working. This is awful.
    Or take nothing at all, because all 3 are equivalent, just EF is worse than any of those.

    /snort this is reminding me of Glyph of Illumination, only it's a fucking talent

  11. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by Lucyrotten View Post
    And take what instead? Sacred Shield? Go back to judging for SH procs?

    I'm at least going to get a serious back-up plan working. This is awful.
    Don't take any talents in that tier Leave it empty!

  12. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by Lumineux View Post
    Don't take any talents in that tier Leave it empty!
    Taking SS is slightly better than nothing... once every two minutes IF it procs. I feel sick to my stomach

  13. #93
    This is unreal and literally breaking the class. Something needs to change or t16 is going to have zero Holy Paladins. Guess it is time to reroll monk or disc priest.

  14. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by Lucyrotten View Post
    Taking SS is slightly better than nothing... once every two minutes IF it procs. I feel sick to my stomach
    I'm sad too, I really enjoy healing on my paladin. These nerfs are so unwarranted it's unbelievable they even put them on the ptr.

  15. #95
    Yeah, unless major changes are comming, rip hpallies for t16 lol.

  16. #96
    I've been healing since classic.... I've never ever benched my main holy pally in all that time for another toon while raiding..... but good god is it time to re-roll? This shit can't make it to live... we need to stop them

  17. #97
    This thread was linked earlier: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/to...1334082?page=1

    Please just go post there and hopefully someone will read it.

  18. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by Lucyrotten View Post
    This thread was linked earlier: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/to...1334082?page=1

    Please just go post there and hopefully someone will read it.
    And make sure to press the like button so it gets highly rated. Might get their attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aladya View Post
    I've done a bit of testing on the PTR

    EF initial hit lowered by 30%, WoG not affected
    No mastery shield from EF
    No mastery shield from Light's Hammer
    No mastery shield from Execution Sentence

    Mastery is still the same 480 rating to reach 1%

    Overall the entire changes account to ~30-35% nerf to Holy Paladin Healing.
    No compensation.
    Im starting to not get surprised.. It just gets worse and worse.. They could just say.. "Hey roll another class were done with u lot"

  20. #100
    For the eu PTR version topic please go post at : http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7697269729
    I guess it won't be as useful as US forums, but it might help you never know !

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