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    Building New computer for under 650 bucks

    Hello I am building a new computer to run games smoothly IE Diablo 3 GW2 and WoW im looking to spend no more than 650 bucks on it and I have no clue where to start or anything for that matter. Can anyone be so kind as to help me build the best bang for my buck.

    ---------- Post added 2013-06-20 at 03:34 AM ----------

    Prebuild would be a bonus as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaud View Post
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    That is about as close as you are going to get and that has no optical drive and no operating system... Its a tight budget considering we don't have a clue what you have to work with.

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    Motherboard: MSI B75MA-E33 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($59.91 @ Amazon)
    Memory: Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.70 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 2GB Video Card ($159.98 @ Newegg)
    Case: NZXT Source 210 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $572.53
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-20 00:30 EDT-0400)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outlit View Post
    run games smoothly IE Diablo 3 GW2 and WoW im looking to spend no more than 650 bucks
    Keep in mind... That's 572 with no OS ($90)... And you won't be able to run WoW 25m raids with entirely stable fps on Ultra. So 'smoothly' needs to be defined a bit more too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chazus View Post
    Keep in mind... That's 572 with no OS ($90)... And you won't be able to run WoW 25m raids with entirely stable fps on Ultra. So 'smoothly' needs to be defined a bit more too.
    Well currently Im using a Nvidia GT 430 and it ran 25m just fine
    Id prefer to go AMD people tell me its better but I really dont know squat about this

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    Shortest answer: don't go AMD.
    Short answer: don't go AMD, Intel is better for these games.

    More in depth answer: while it is true AMD tends to be cheaper (not always true, especially for high performance products), their biggest advantage over Intel is the number of physical cores on the CPU. Thing is, MMORPG and especially WoW aren't using all the cores, so having 6/8 cores instead of 4 makes no difference at all. Intel, on the other hand, has better single core performance over AMD, which means that if a game uses only, say, 2 cores, then 2 Intel cores will do things faster than 2 AMD cores, while both will be ignoring the others.

    Considering how heavily CPU based WoW is, if you're aiming on a good performance on this you need the best CPU you can get your hands on, and by the nature of WoW application threads, that means the best single-core performance CPU. As a result, you want Intel.
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    So Intel doesnt like overheat or anything like that?

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    How are you getting to that conclusion from "Intel has better single core performance than AMD"?
    Quote Originally Posted by Qieth
    I don't do math, blind assumptions work so much better for me.

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    Would something like this work?

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($178.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.24 @ Amazon)
    Memory: A-Data Gaming Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
    Video Card: MSI GeForce GT 640 4GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Amazon)
    Case: Gigabyte GZ-F5HEB ATX Mid Tower Case ($28.12 @ Amazon)
    Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($26.75 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: Pioneer BDC-207DBK Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($37.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Total: $634.02
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-22 05:58 EDT-0400)

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    Don't go AMD. Intel has been ahead since the dawn of time

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    Quote Originally Posted by arel00 View Post
    How are you getting to that conclusion from "Intel has better single core performance than AMD"?
    It's a fact, straight up. Intel has better IPC. It's also the reason that, clock for clock, Intel performs better, especially in CPU heavy games like WoW raiding.

    ---------- Post added 2013-06-22 at 03:26 AM ----------

    Very well rounded system for under 650.

    PCPartPicker part list
    CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    Motherboard: ASRock B75M-DGS R2.0 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($49.99 @ Amazon)
    Memory: Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($52.99 @ Amazon)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB Video Card ($104.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ Microcenter)
    Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($26.75 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($87.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Total: $630.64

    If it's worth it to you, you can save about $30 now, go with a Z77 and i3-3220 and still play comfortably until you save up $230 to upgrade to a 3570K + EVO 212 and overclock it to ~4.5ghz for raiding.
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    This is what I've got:

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Microcenter)
    Motherboard: MSI B85-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Amazon)
    Memory: Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($52.99 @ Amazon)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($65.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
    Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ Microcenter)
    Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($26.75 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($87.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Total: $646.65
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-22 08:17 EDT-0400)

    You could possibly change the GPU for a 650Ti (not BOOST version). IT's somewhat limited on upgradability being a B85 chipset, but that should knock Wow on medium settings out under normal circumstances (the GPU is pretty weak for newer games).

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazus View Post
    It's a fact, straight up. Intel has better IPC. It's also the reason that, clock for clock, Intel performs better, especially in CPU heavy games like WoW raiding.
    Uhm, I know. I was stating Intel advantages myself in the previous post. What you quoted was me being surprised at how Intel being better brought the OP to ask if it has overheating problems :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Qieth
    I don't do math, blind assumptions work so much better for me.

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