Americans are you concerned?

[Puremallace]

CBO projects almost 1 trillion dollars in deficit reduction over the next two decades.

Quoting this to Republicans is like waiting until it is nighttime pointing at the bright thing and calling it the moon. They will somehow find a way to deny it.

Infracted

[Reeve]

Pretty much cool with it. Yup.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

More or less all right.

[Ult92]

I think, in some respects, either outcome from this will be good.

1) We get immigration reform, which will have a variety of benefits (don't just think about the undocumented - it also reforms the visa process for high-skill people wishing to move here).

2) We don't get reform, and yes that sucks, but it has benefits too. The Republican Party, it it succeeds in blocking the measure, will continue to worsen their electoral chances with growing groups of ethnic minorities in the country. If they continue on this path, it is possible the GOP's chances of attaining the highest office again will sink, and they will become increasingly marginalized in our political system.

[Payday]

Also as FYI, those granted "amnesty" under this bill won't be able to vote until the 2028 elections. Don't believe the hype

[chrisberb]

Also as FYI, those granted "amnesty" under this bill won't be able to vote until the 2028 elections. Don't believe the hype

Yeah, not to mention from what I read last, it would be AT LEAST 13 years until they could apply for citizenship, and then have to wait in that line. Although I think there are some exceptions for the "DREAM" eligible people

[Bryntrollian]

I'm not concerned about imaginary statistics, no.

I second this, I'm tired of you people and your end of the world like mentalities.

[THE Bigzoman]

QFT.
Open the gates, hand out citizenship, and let them immerse into the melting pot.

Please, the melting pot is nothing but a bedtime story that helps us sleep at night. It's far from what the United States actually is.

[drwelfare]

Also as FYI, those granted "amnesty" under this bill won't be able to vote until the 2028 elections. Don't believe the hype

Which can be changed later when we are making the poor people wait 13 years and its unfair.

[Payday]

Yeah, not to mention from what I read last, it would be AT LEAST 13 years until they could apply for citizenship, and then have to wait in that line. Although I think there are some exceptions for the "DREAM" eligible people

Those who entered the U.S. before age 16 and completed two years of college or four years in the military can apply for citizenship after a 5 year wait

Which can be changed later when we are making the poor people wait 13 years and its unfair.

Unfair to who? Wait 13 years for what?

[chrisberb]

Those who entered the U.S. before age 16 and completed two years of college or four years in the military can apply for citizenship after a 5 year wait

Yeah, I'm hoping that provision stays in whatever bill gets passed, and that such bill does pass. One of my closest and best friends was brought here from Brazil when she was 10..she's now 26 and paying her way through college..and she deserves to reap the fruits of her labor!

[OzoAndIndi]

What the government does is kind of out of my control and I have more immediate things in my own life to focus on. People will never be completely stopped from crossing our boarders. It might be more reasonable to look at the businesses that are illegally employing them instead of kissing the asses of these so called job maker gods. Wah wah, jobs Americans don't want to do... then find an option to give these businesses a legal way of contracting people who will - and go after those who don't contract legally - instead of just sitting there attracting people like cake next to an anthill.

[Reeve]

Please, the melting pot is nothing but a bedtime story that helps us sleep at night. It's far from what the United States actually is.

Oh please. The pot doesn't melt in one or two generations, but it does melt. How many 5th generation Chinese do you know in the US who don't feel entirely American?

[Puremallace]

Yeah, I'm hoping that provision stays in whatever bill gets passed, and that such bill does pass. One of my closest and best friends was brought here from Brazil when she was 10..she's now 26 and paying her way through college..and she deserves to reap the fruits of her labor!

Sorry according to the cancer that is infecting the Republican party right now your friend needs to pack up their bags and go home. Elections have consequences and people keep electing these severely extreme people to office that affects peoples lives.

Guess what the first women on Medicaid who dies in Iowa because she was denied a abortion during a miscarriage because that state just passed a law that says NOT YOUR DOCTOR has the final say so, but the governor must approve your abortion.

IMMIGRATION bill will guarantee fail in the house. They are just too extreme.

[Alvito]

Didn't know Glen Beck was a MMO-Champ forum poster. What a shame.

[Hurwyn]

You did not mention the part where we they will become a new large voting block that will doom certain political groups.

Lol... oh if only voting actually mattered anymore. So many people still stuck in that lie.

[oxymoronic]

Are you concerned that none of the Immigration Reform (Amnesty) plans show how illegal immigration will be prevented or how the USA will pay for 60 million new welfare recipients?

Yes but I know at the end of the day the democrats want as many foreigners as possible to be legal and able to vote and since they are the hot thing amongst kids these days they will probably win and so will their agenda. AKA nothing we sane people can do about it.

[steale]

I swear to god that I cannot PUT INTO WORDS how happy I am every night when I goto sleep knowing NO REPUBLICAN will ever be president again. I wish to god I could put it into words.

Republicans attack women, poor people, kids on disability, and the rights of minorities. You leave out the fact alot of people would not need food stamps if Republicans had not run the economy INTO THE GROUND.

One day Democrats will stand up and become 10 times more extreme then these tea party nuts and take back this country.

You do know that Rush Limbaugh doesn't speak for all Republicans, right? He's the Feinstein/Bloomberg of Republicans. 95% of us don't like him or don't pay attention to him either.

On topic though, I'm all for the immigration of productive members of society, and Hispanics are just the easiest to take a shit on at the moment. Rewind a few decades and it was the Irish and Italians coming over en masse getting shat on, but they took their licks from the locals and earned a spot here. Now it's somebody else's turn.

[Reg]

The numbers are closer to 12 million undocumented, a decent portion of which will not be on welfare, but rather new tax payers. I'm pretty sure I am ok with that.

[oxymoronic]

I swear to god that I cannot PUT INTO WORDS how happy I am every night when I goto sleep knowing NO REPUBLICAN will ever be president again. I wish to god I could put it into words.

Republicans attack women, poor people, kids on disability, and the rights of minorities. You leave out the fact alot of people would not need food stamps if Republicans had not run the economy INTO THE GROUND.

One day Democrats will stand up and become 10 times more extreme then these tea party nuts and take back this country.

And this is exactly why I support neither side. Wish they had something for the people in the middle that just want to be reasonable.

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The numbers are closer to 12 million undocumented, a decent portion of which will not be on welfare, but rather new tax payers. I'm pretty sure I am ok with that.

Oh yeah? thought all illegals had jobs that paid next to nothing that the regular joe refuses to do? How is that job going to be taxed?