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    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    People like you are the reason Blizzard doesn't give their word in the first place. Which also means that you can't hold them to it, as they never gave it.
    Mounted Combat was suppose to come in with 3.1 Other paths NOT taken by Blizz, but announced as features. I won't even mention Dance Studio since I have no dog in that fight.
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    We intend to disallow flying while leveling from 90 to 100, and have flying become available again in the first major patch for Warlords of Draenor. Source

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superman-BladesEdge View Post
    Mounted Combat was suppose to come in with 3.1 Other paths NOT taken by Blizz, but announced as features. I won't even mention Dance Studio since I have no dog in that fight.
    You are proving his point more. mounted combat was released in the form of jousting with the dailies.

    The other were features they were working on and showed us a preview. They were not promised and were later scrapped because they didn't work for whatever reason.


    What is going to happen is we just won't hear about these things anymore as it just makes people like you.

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    Believe it or not, player housing was briefly tested in alpha. Model viewers showed files going back to alpha in a folder called "playerhousing" (as shown below). Only human houses were ever designed. Blizzard also added a portal in Stormwind as an entrance to an instanced player housing area. An alpha blue poster named Katricia wrote, "Our current idea (which could change) is to extend the cities to have player housing neighborhoods. For example, in the canal area of Stormwind players can see a blue instance portal behind a large portcullis; this is the entrance to the player housing neighborhood in Stormwind."

    Why it was scrapped: Blizzard CMs and execs have commented on housing many times over the years. In 2004, Caydiem said housing is "a huge feature with a lot of dedicated time needed." Blizzard "definitely wants to do" housing, but it is not a "soon after release" feature, but rather an "on the horizon" feature. Two years later, Nethaera said housing had "no ETA." In 2008, Tom Chilton said, "It's incredibly complex to do right and we're not sure yet if it's going to be the right thing for WoW in the long run. It has major implications for the game itself and again I wouldn't go out of my way and say never but it's not on the immediately of things to do." More recently, Chilton did go out of his way and said "sometime after never."

    What happened to it:
    Nothing yet. Players continue to ask and to wait.

    It didn't survive

    WoW's classic beta included a minor profession called "survival skills." The profession included the ability to create campfires and torches. The original purpose of campfires was twofold: to allow cooking anywhere and to allow faster recovery after combat. The developers envisioned longer recovery times after each fight, with a campfire reducing the time required. The "Basic Campfire" was called that because you could learn to make better versions by leveling the profession.

    The Dim Torch was a mobile version of the Basic Campfire. They could be equipped in a player's offhand slot in lieu of a weapon, and they lasted for up to one hour.

    Why it was scrapped: We don't really know, but we can speculate. Perhaps Blizzard thought the profession lacked depth and they didn't have enough good ideas to flesh it out. It's hard to guess at what else the profession could have allowed players to do or make.

    What happened to it: The campfire ability became part of cooking instead. Torch models are used for some items.

    AV kills AC

    Azshara Crater was a battleground planned for release during vanilla. It was intended to be similar to the original Alterac Valley. Entrances had been set up in the Forlorn Valley area of the zone, but portals never appeared.

    Why it was scrapped: Alterac Valley, as WoW Archivist previously covered, had a long evolution. For years, Blizzard tried to figure out how to balance the zone and how a large battleground like that should work. They acknowledged that AV's problems led to AC's delay.

    What happened to it: Goblins strip-mined this area of Azshara after the Shattering, but Blizzard still considered releasing an Azshara Crater battleground as recently as Mists. During BlizzCon 2011, Blizzard said that AC was one of three BGs in the works for Mists, and that it would have DOTA-style gameplay. In 2012, they said they settled on the other two instead, and AC still hasn't seen the light of day. Files for it are in the game, however.

    Nosedive

    One of the announced features for Wrath of the Lich King was aerial combat. At BlizzCon 2008, Tom Chilton talked about two types of planes that could be flown in Wintergrasp: a small but fast fighter and a slow bomber. The counters to these planes were pilotable goblin shredders with anti-air guns. Videos have been released showing fighter plane-style vehicles that could fire guns to take out flying enemies. The Wrath of the Lich King box even proclaimed, "Engage in aerial dogfights with flying mounts and new, gnome-engineered planes." The feature never appeared, however, and Wintergrasp remained a land war.

    Why it was scrapped: In BlizzCast Episode 8, Tom Chilton said that the feature lacked polish. He said they wanted to implement real flying physics: "If you look at a lot of games that have done flight simulation, there is a lot of care that goes into giving you that sensation of flying by having the world tilt and stuff like that so it feels a little less mechanical, feels a little bit more alive or more natural. So one of the things that we have kind of tasked ourselves with doing is figuring out how to polish that, how to improve on our vehicle physics..."

    What happened to it: It's likely that the Dragonblight blightbeasts quest used some of the coding from air combat, among others. The Harrison Jones quest line in Cataclysm's Uldum zone and the goblin starting area also involved plane combat sequences that could have reused assets from this work.

    Stomp the studio

    It's been discussed to death, but no discussion of canceled content would be complete without mentioning the ill-fated dance studio. When Wrath of the Lich King debuted at BlizzCon 2007, the announcement trailer told us "new dances" were on the way. In later interviews, Blizzard used the words "dance studio." The studio was a new system that could teach your character dances beyond your original race- and gender-based move-busting.

    Why it was scrapped: Before Wrath even launched, Jeff Kaplan and Tom Chilton told Curse that the dance studio had been pushed back beyond the upcoming expansion. Zarhym told us that animators were "hacking away" at new dances in 2009, and that the studio would "come when it comes" -- without dropping a single Soon™. Nethaera posted, "Creating additional dances takes a significant amount of animation work and we want to make sure that when we do put them out, that they meet our standards. We still intend to put them in, but we have no current ETA on their addition."

    What happened to it:
    In early 2010, as Wrath wrapped up, Blizzard said in a Twitter chat that "It's still on the list!" We can speculate that perhaps Blizzard wants to implement new models for the original races before giving them new dance animations. Garrosh's new orc model certainly shows that it might be worth the wait.

    Unraided

    Several zones and raids have either been developed or announced and then canceled. The Emerald Dream has been part of the game files for a long time, and you could even access it if you knew how. Tigole described it in 2003: "The Emerald Dream is shaping up to be extremely cool. We don't want to preview any of that content yet as it is endgame and we want some surprises for players. The zone is massive and beautiful." Azjol-Nerub in Wrath of the Lich King was originally planned as an entire zone with the possibility of a raid.

    In Cataclysm, Abyssal Maw was planned as a counterpart to Firelands. It's not clear whether it would have been a dungeon or a raid, but Ghostcrawler described it as "three bosses inside Nespirah." Blizzard also announced a Caverns of Time raid for the War of the Ancients.

    Why they were scrapped: In many cases, we don't know for sure, but we can guess that Blizzard either ran out of time or the design didn't live up to their standards. Ghostcrawler commented on Abyssal Maw's cancellation: "The reason it was originally appealing to us was because we had so many Vashj'ir assets that we could use ... Firelands received a lot of new art, from bosses to environments, and we just didn't feel like Abyssal Maw was going to compete." In the same comment, GC said that Abyssal Maw is not what he's saddest about canceling, but the Azjol-Nerub zone. Me too, GC.

    What happened to them:
    The Emerald Dream has been part of WoW's ongoing story and players have briefly visited it -- during the Valithria encounter in Icecrown Citadel, for example. However, the area as designed in pre-alpha has never been released as a zone or a raid. The Azjol-Nerub assets were used in two dungeons: Azjol-Nerub and Ahn-Kahet: The Old Kingdom. Players expressed disappointment that Anub'arak was "only" a 5-man boss, so Blizzard brought him back as a raid boss in the Crusader's Coliseum. Abyssal Maw never materialized in any form, and the War of the Ancients raid became a 5-man dungeon, leaving Cataclysm rather light on raid content beyond its first tier.

    Path closed for renovation

    Finally, we come to what could have been a truly game-changing feature for WoW. Announced at BlizzCon 2009, the Path of the Titans was Blizzard's ambitious plan to give our characters new ways to advance at the endgame beyond gear or reputation.

    Choosing your path meant committing yourself to a given Titan, although respecs and dual specializations were planned. Named for the road that runs through Dragonblight, the path allowed players to earn new abilities and bonuses. Blizzard estimated that completing all ten ranks of your chosen path would result in a 20% power increase over the course of the expansion. Any class or race could choose any path, though Ghostcrawler expected that players would min/max which path was optimal for a given spec.

    The system proved to be quite complex. Your progress would be earned through the new archaeology profession, as you located and turned in titan artifacts. The actual abilities and bonuses came in the form of a new type of glyph called an "ancient glyph."

    Examples of these bonuses included damage reduction, resistance against debuffs, and better first-aid bandaging (no, really). The abilities shown were a 10% DPS cooldown and a 10% group damage reduction cooldown.

    Why it was scrapped: It seems that everything Blizzard names "Titan" is doomed to go back to the drawing board. Path of the Titans was officially canceled at the June 2010 Cataclysm press event. Blizzard said the system didn't feel different enough from glyphs. Ghostcrawler told GamePlanet, "We sat down and really tried to simplify the Path system and we realized we were taking out almost everything except for this idea of making glyphs cooler because glyphs really didn't live up to what they could've been. So we wanted to revamp the glyph system and realized, why are we spending all this time on the Path system when what we really want to do is fix glyphs up?"

    What happened to it: Archaeology became a minor profession, as promised. It suffered without the Path as context, though. Most players found it grindy and disappointing. Glyphs got the overhaul they needed and are much improved, but the Path itself never made a reappearance. As a result, Cataclysm had very little to offer at endgame besides raiding and PvP. Ghostcrawler said that Blizzard might revisit the feature someday: "We still like the idea of having some kind of endgame progression, more character customization, we really like the way it ties into the lore and the history of the world -- so we might do it someday."
    Needless to say, they are constantly telling us "Guess what you're getting?" and later changing it to "Guess what we got you instead?". I'm a bit tired of the old bait and switch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baar View Post
    You are proving his point more. mounted combat was released in the form of jousting with the dailies.
    The other were features they were working on and showed us a preview. They were not promised and were later scrapped because they didn't work for whatever reason. That is going to happen is we just won't hear about these things anymore as it just makes people like you.
    Then why was the picture of mounted combat displayed with a Mekgineer's chopper? To my knowledge, it is not a usable mount at the Argent Tourney Grounds.
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    They will be in 6.0 because they absolutely have to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superman-BladesEdge View Post
    Needless to say, they are constantly telling us "Guess what you're getting?" and later changing it to "Guess what we got you instead?". I'm a bit tired of the old bait and switch.

    You just don't stop do you. Why do you even play this game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airwaves View Post
    They have been working on them for over a year now. They WILL be a selling point for next expansion mark my word.
    They'll be free if anything.
    Look! Words!

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    They took their sweet time a year ago. The game is older than dirt now and some of the assests you see all the time still retain their original ~2004 look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clampy View Post
    They never said MoP wasn't the new expansion, they said usually when they do anything pandaran related it is a TCG or something along those lines (its called PR talk). Also, the dances were coming in Cataclysm, not WotLK.

    I really believe you are just trying to bait arguments at this point.
    First off: You're dumb...

    Secondly: Go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2IvDjY3CtQ and go to 2:31. Again, you're dumb.

    Thirdly: http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/...ts-of-Pandaria

    Fourthly: http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/...Gallery-Update

    AND I QUOTE: On Mists of Pandaria: "Most of the time when we do anything panda-related it's going to be a comic book or a figurine or something like that." PR or whatever you want to call it... they dodged it. and that was bull!

    And for that... I am done.

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    I'm not sure if it's even related to the new player models but maybe ( i wish) with these new character models and poses etc , they might do something with cloaks too , like over the shoulder cloaks like arthas in CoS , or lich king . It's not really important but still, cloaks are the only piece of gear that has remained pretty much the same since wow started with that "water slide" look, they only clip the end of it here and there to make it look "different" .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kipling View Post
    I daresay they'll be previewed and announced with the expansion announcement at blizzcon in november. While you won't need to buy the expansion to get the models (they'll just be part of the 6.0 patch I imagine) they will be a 'selling point' for the expansion - ie to keep people playing (or bring people back)
    For the love of god, THIS!

    People are saying it make sense to release them with the new expansion as a "feature" and "selling point" like they wouldn't be if they were released in the pre patch like new zones were in Cata. Everyone will get new models whether they buy the next expansion or not.
    Originally Posted by spaace
    I'm REALLY starting to get annoying with all the ignorance on these forums lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeleNC View Post
    First off: You're dumb...

    Secondly: Go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2IvDjY3CtQ and go to 2:31. Again, you're dumb.

    Thirdly: http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/...ts-of-Pandaria

    Fourthly: http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/...Gallery-Update

    AND I QUOTE: On Mists of Pandaria: "Most of the time when we do anything panda-related it's going to be a comic book or a figurine or something like that."

    And for that... I am done.

    You repeated what he said they said? You can read right?

    Only thing you proved him wrong on was the dance studio.

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    I just hope with the models coming sooner or later that they re-do the druid forms, especially the ones that were made in vanilla, like cat and bear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baar View Post
    You just don't stop do you. Why do you even play this game?
    I don't anymore. Had you actually read what I initially wrote you would know that. Instead, you went knee-jerk reactive the moment you saw the thread title.
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    I'm seeing a lot of whining and crying about a feature of the game that is far from important or game-breaking. It is purely aesthetic, and adds no true value to the gaming experience. Sure, the newer races look cool, and I'm sure that the updated models will look just as awesome, but it isn't something that that should make or break someone's decision to keep playing the game. Be patient, and stop acting like children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeleNC View Post
    AND I QUOTE: On Mists of Pandaria: "Most of the time when we do anything panda-related it's going to be a comic book or a figurine or something like that." PR or whatever you want to call it... they dodged it. and that was bull!
    Ofc they dodged it, do you really think they want you to know what the expansion is called before the big reveal? Clearly you are the dumb one if you thought they were going to go along with the copyright reveal.

    Try reading how its worded and you will realise its not bull. "MOST of the time...." (but not always)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superman-BladesEdge View Post
    I don't anymore. Had you actually read what I initially wrote you would know that. Instead, you went knee-jerk reactive the moment you saw the thread title.
    You mean this post?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superman-BladesEdge View Post
    If they spent less time making new dailies, we'd have all new models by now. TECHNICALLY, the new models should have come with Cataclysm. They changed the face of Azeroth for the worst and left the same old skins in the game. SO... FIRE some quest designers and HIRE some character designers.
    I read it, I don't agree with it. I could care less about something I hardly ever look at. I would much rather have 100-1000 new quests to do.


    Also can you link a picture of the chopper in combat. Never seen it before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baar View Post
    You repeated what he said they said? You can read right?

    Only thing you proved him wrong on was the dance studio.
    Yea, I remember as cata because after they dropped it from wrath there was tons of talk about it coming in cata so I just relate it with cata, my bad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baar View Post
    I read it, I don't agree with it. I could care less about something I hardly ever look at. I would much rather have 100-1000 new quests to do.

    Also can you link a picture of the chopper in combat. Never seen it before.
    Still looking for it. Also, I'm guessing I either posted it later, or possibly in another thread. The paraphrase is "I will resub when they finally have an expansion as epic as TBC or Wrath and when the new models come along with it since current models ."
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    We intend to disallow flying while leveling from 90 to 100, and have flying become available again in the first major patch for Warlords of Draenor. Source

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    They have said they are working on them for what....a few years now ?

    They had plenty of time to do Classic , BC and even the Cataclysm races.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haytham View Post
    They have said they are working on them for what....a few years now ?

    They had plenty of time to do Classic , BC and even the Cataclysm races.
    I never knew BC races were high res textures. /sarc

    As someone pointed out the new race models will not be a expansion only feature, it will however be a feature to get people to return playing.
    *An expansion AND new models? SOLD*

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