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    Lore casualties in the Siege of Orgrimmar

    While the sound files that were datamined make it look like some characters might be dying (Lor'themar, Varyan i.e), I thought at first glance that those sound bites were there in case you failed the Siege/Escort or something.

    Putting that aside, I think there might be some lore characters besides Garrosh & company that end up dying for each faction.

    For the Alliance:

    I really hope that Varian dies. He has too much screen time to the detriment of every other leader, and his character is a royal mess (specially the Lo'Gosh/Champion of Goldrinn bullshit).

    For the Horde:

    I know the world..of Warcraft will end first before Metzen decides it's time to kill Green Jesus, but huh, yeah, Thrall would be my favorite pick to die. If Garrosh kills Thrall he will become one of my favorites Orcs of all time, up there with his father.

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    Good luck getting Thrall or Varian to die. WoW has terrible writers who love their mary sues to the end.

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    People that want Thrall to die because he is powerful are annoying. If Thrall has to die, then Malfurion and Velen at least need to die as well.
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    wish people would stop hating on varian, hes one of the most realistic characters in wow and is the best leader of the alliance
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    How is Varians character a mess? I think his story is pretty good/cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immitis View Post
    wish people would stop hating on varian, hes one of the most realistic characters in wow and is the best leader of the alliance
    That is because he got the Meme treatment, most characters that get this treatment are force on you and some people love it, but the people that hate him saw the change.

    Quote Originally Posted by loganroth51 View Post
    How is Varians character a mess? I think his story is pretty good/cool.
    You mean the Alliance Thrall Story?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kioshi View Post
    That is because he got the Meme treatment, most characters that get this treatment are force on you and some people love it, but the people that hate him saw the change.



    You mean the Alliance Thrall Story?
    varians story is all about trying to be a better man for his son, and trying to learn that in order to be a better father he has to let his son fly on his own from time to time.

    varians story is nothing like thralls other than they were both gladiators at some point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loganroth51 View Post
    How is Varians character a mess? I think his story is pretty good/cool.
    It reads like a really bad fan fiction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kioshi View Post
    You mean the Alliance Thrall Story?
    I dont see how their stories are the same besides being gladiators at one point in their life. Not sure why that would make the rest of his story and character bad.

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    Fucking Thrall NEEDS to die, the worst bloody character in the whole universe.

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    only way i can see Varians death serving any purpose is if it pushed Jaina into taking more control over the alliance, pushing for war again with the Horde. Maybe creating a schism for Anduin, creating a character that has to deal with the loss of both his mother and father at the hands of the Horde, knowing that peace with the Horde is the only way Azeroth can survive but ultimately he hates them.

    I don't want Thrall to die, tho I wouldn't mind if his character took a step back. He's a father now, he should go do fatherly stuff after SoO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loganroth51 View Post
    I dont see how their stories are the same besides being gladiators at one point in their life. Not sure why that would make the rest of his story and character bad.
    Why couldn't he just be a King of Stormwind, plain and simple? Why mess it up with some Lo'Gosh/Champion of Goldrinn bullcrap or the split personality, later fusion of Varian+Lo'Gosh story arc? C'mon man...

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    Hopefully Blizzard pulls a "game of thrones".

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    Quote Originally Posted by spaace View Post
    Hopefully Blizzard pulls a "game of thrones".

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    I'm kind've hoping we see Saurfang dead at the start, his corpse staked out in front of Orgrimmar - not out of any kind of hatred for the character, but just because that would be an amazing way to show us what the score is.

    Thrall and/or Vol'jin dying would be worthwhile too, although I'd be fine with Thrall surviving provided he goes back to being world shaman rather than warchief.

    Alliance side, I can't really think of anyone whose death would make sense or create any kind of impact - Jaina, Anduin, and Varian are the ones who've got the most stake in this, but I don't really want to see any of them die, and it sounds like Anduin is still in Pandaria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zabersus View Post
    Why couldn't he just be a King of Stormwind, plain and simple? Why mess it up with some Lo'Gosh/Champion of Goldrinn bullcrap or the split personality, later fusion of Varian+Lo'Gosh story arc? C'mon man...
    IDK, I hate Varians story. It sounds like an orc's story in all honesty

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chickat View Post
    People that want Thrall to die because he is powerful are annoying. If Thrall has to die, then Malfurion and Velen at least need to die as well.
    ^this and ummmm oh yeah this again. We realistically have only seen thrall for one expansion and honestly I feel that besides Dragon Soul a five man and a one hour questline at the beginning of the FL patch we really didn't get to see him that much. I think the real reason people hate Thrall is because they equate him to Dragon Soul which was arguably one of the worst raids in the history of WoW. However before that Thrall seemed to be one of the most liked characters.There were those that loved to call him a Mary Sue, but honestly I think that has always been the hip thing people do to WoW characters they don't like.

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    I was hoping they'd kill off Drek'thar to kick off the civil war.
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    Varian wont be killed, he's the chosen champion of Goldrinne/ Lo'gosh and his story is far from over, no matter how much internet "meme's" you put on him. His story is building up slowing in the backround, he just finally made the 3 dwarf clans trust each other and have organized the Alliance races into one big fighting force for something and it's not dealing with Garrosh by the looks of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spaace View Post
    Hopefully Blizzard pulls a "game of thrones".

    Bazinga~
    That would be exactly the kind of twist the lore needs. People need to be afraid for the safety of the characters they are rooting for. By now most of the speculation is centered around who will become the next Warchief, not around who will make it out alive of the Siege. That...just feels wrong to me. I know this is a light-fantasy and all, but a little bit of realism wouldn't hurt either.

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