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  1. #21
    Xuen is just Barrage, how does it not make sense? Yulon specifically states damaging /spells/, while we are classified as ranged /physical/.

  2. #22
    I asked Ghostcrawler and he said he usually says they group hunters with melee, so I still think we will get the xuen proc.

    https://twitter.com/Ghostcrawler/sta...61361988145152

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  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Tehstool View Post
    I asked Ghostcrawler and he said he usually says they group hunters with melee, so I still think we will get the xuen proc.

    https://twitter.com/Ghostcrawler/sta...61361988145152
    They are probably going to make it work like Barrage for hunters then.

  4. #24
    That's not possible.

    You can control Barrage and avoid pulling the whole room, you can't control a proc...

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by hareu View Post
    Flurry of Xuen - Your damaging attacks have a chance to trigger a Flurry of Xuen, causing you to deal 60% weapon damage to all targets in front of you, every 0.5 sec for 3 sec.

    so, all targets in front of us, were at ranged, so..?

    not sure how this is supposed to work for us.
    No min-range required any more. Hunters are now melee. Problem solved.

  6. #26
    Might be around your target, that would make sense. Or it could work like mop beta black arrow.

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Dracodraco View Post
    hehehehehehhe. Heheh. Heh. How many times have they "fixed" starfall to work like that?



    Yes, we know.
    For my Boomkin alt it's been fixed completely for the entire duration of this expansion.

    Also I don't see any reason the Xuen proc can't be adjusted to work just fine for Hunters. The Yu'lon one makes no sense for us.

    For either one we seem like an afterthought which is a bummer.

    ---------- Post added 2013-06-28 at 03:38 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Trieste View Post
    That's not possible.

    You can control Barrage and avoid pulling the whole room, you can't control a proc...
    Again, it can function similarly to Starfall which only targets mobs that are in combat now.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    No min-range required any more. Hunters are now melee. Problem solved.
    This would only be acceptable if Hunters counted as melee for boss mechanics as well (similar to Mistweaver Monks) since otherwise you'll get nasty things falling into the melee group all the time that normally should only target "ranged" party members.

  9. #29
    Should be more worried about how the arguably strongest trinket in 5.4 will be given to hunters as last resort:


    http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145965-readiness

    GG HF Blizzard, there i said it...The developers or whomever is responsible of hunters,have absolutely no idea how to fix this disgrace of a class.

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Kibu View Post
    Should be more worried about how the arguably strongest trinket in 5.4 will be given to hunters as last resort:


    http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145965-readiness

    GG HF Blizzard, there i said it...The developers or whomever is responsible of hunters,have absolutely no idea how to fix this disgrace of a class.
    Not sure why you keep linking that spell.... how do you know that spell is connected to that trinket?

  11. #31
    Because this is what the trinket does for Marksman Hunters per example, namely nothing...Compared to say a Monk or a Rogue. Same, as if they dont fix the buff we get from the cloak. Which hopefuly they will. You can check what the CD reducing trinkets do for every class.

    List of the CDs those Cooldown Reducing Trinkets change, mix of offensive and defensive, Rallying Cry, Aura Mastery etc...:

    Blood Death Knight - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145958-readiness
    Frost Death Knight - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145959-readiness
    Unholy Death Knight - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145960-readiness
    Feral Druid - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145961-readiness
    Guardian Druid - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145962-readiness
    Resto Druid - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145963-readiness
    Beastmaster Hunter - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145964-readiness
    Marksman Hunter - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145965-readiness
    Survival Hunter - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145966-readiness
    Brewmaster Monk - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145967-readiness
    Mistweaver Monk - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145968-readiness
    Windwalker Monk - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145969-readiness
    Holy Paladin - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145975-readiness
    Protection Paladin - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145976-readiness
    Retribution Paladin - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145978-readiness
    Discipline Priest - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145981-readiness
    Holy Priest - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145982-readiness
    Assassination Rogue - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145983-readiness
    Combat Rogue - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145984-readiness
    Subtlety Rogue - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145985-readiness
    Enhancement Shaman - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145986-readiness
    Restoration Shaman - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145988-readiness
    Arms Warrior - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145990-readiness
    Fury Warrior - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145991-readiness
    Protection Warrior - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145992-readiness
    Last edited by Kibu; 2013-07-02 at 12:32 AM.

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Kibu View Post
    Because this is what the trinket does for Marksman Hunters per example, namely nothing...Compared to say a Monk or a Rogue. Same, as if they dont fix the buff we get from the cloak. Which hopefuly they will. You can check what the CD reducing trinkets do for every class.

    List of the CDs those Cooldown Reducing Trinkets change, mix of offensive and defensive, Rallying Cry, Aura Mastery etc...:

    Blood Death Knight - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145958-readiness
    Frost Death Knight - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145959-readiness
    Unholy Death Knight - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145960-readiness
    Feral Druid - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145961-readiness
    Guardian Druid - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145962-readiness
    Resto Druid - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145963-readiness
    Beastmaster Hunter - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145964-readiness
    Marksman Hunter - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145965-readiness
    Survival Hunter - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145966-readiness
    Brewmaster Monk - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145967-readiness
    Mistweaver Monk - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145968-readiness
    Windwalker Monk - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145969-readiness
    Holy Paladin - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145975-readiness
    Protection Paladin - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145976-readiness
    Retribution Paladin - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145978-readiness
    Discipline Priest - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145981-readiness
    Holy Priest - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145982-readiness
    Assassination Rogue - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145983-readiness
    Combat Rogue - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145984-readiness
    Subtlety Rogue - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145985-readiness
    Enhancement Shaman - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145986-readiness
    Restoration Shaman - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145988-readiness
    Arms Warrior - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145990-readiness
    Fury Warrior - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145991-readiness
    Protection Warrior - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145992-readiness
    I honestly don't think those are final. The trinket says 6 and some have 7 and 8 (maybe more, I might've missed it).

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  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Tehstool View Post
    I honestly don't think those are final. The trinket says 6 and some have 7 and 8 (maybe more, I might've missed it).
    But I would not be surprised. "Hey we already got rid of readiness for most of their abilities, lets make sure we dont do it for this trinket".

  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Kibu View Post
    Because this is what the trinket does for Marksman Hunters per example, namely nothing...Compared to say a Monk or a Rogue. Same, as if they dont fix the buff we get from the cloak. Which hopefuly they will. You can check what the CD reducing trinkets do for every class.

    List of the CDs those Cooldown Reducing Trinkets change, mix of offensive and defensive, Rallying Cry, Aura Mastery etc...:

    .......
    Beastmaster Hunter - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145964-readiness
    Marksman Hunter - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145965-readiness
    Survival Hunter - http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/145966-readiness
    ........
    1) No chance that goes live as is... Some classes/specs get more than 6 and some get less. They probably have almost nothing listed for hunters while they figure out how to make it apply to our Tier 4/5/6 talents.

    2) Still not 100% sure that is tied to the trinkets. It does seem more likely since every class/spec has it, but it could be something completely different and unrelated to the trinkets
    Last edited by Rackfu; 2013-07-02 at 11:18 PM.

  15. #35
    If a class has 8 spells eligible for the trinket reset, I'd imagine 2 would be left off, and only 6 would be affected. It'd be a nutso game of RNG though.

  16. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by zenyatta View Post
    If a class has 8 spells eligible for the trinket reset, I'd imagine 2 would be left off, and only 6 would be affected. It'd be a nutso game of RNG though.
    What?

    Are you suggesting that when you equip the trinket, it randomly selects 6 of the eligible spell to reduce the cooldown of?

    People would just equip/unequip until the got the ones they wanted.


    If those trinkets go live, each spec will have 6 spells/talents affected and I assume it will be a mix of dps/survival abilities.

  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Tehstool View Post
    I honestly don't think those are final. The trinket says 6 and some have 7 and 8 (maybe more, I might've missed it).
    dude what you doing, i always wanted to have camo on a lower CD than the duration. OMG i wont have camo on 40 sec cd?

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