Because Alliance will cry that we have a strong Warchief that might take over them. Stupid Alliance.
Because the alliance would end up eventually crushing the horde. Taran Zhu allowing the horde to remain in the vale is contingent on the success of the revolution. If they just give up and say actually we're sticking with this guy, you can effectively add another race that wants to see the horde dismantled.
Plenty of other groups like, that from the various cenarion branches to more dangerous ones like Tirion and the argent crusade, as well as the kirin tor (already coming to kill garrosh), and the knights of the ebon blade. The longer you have a raving lunatic like garrosh at the helm, the more people you find lining up to take you down as you turn yourself into a cliched villain.
Grom never really had to deal much with non-orc allies. Grom also never had to micromanage the complexities of a very fragile alliance of convenience either, with sub-factions questioning or disaproving of your decisions to go to war, as warchief.
I don't think Garrosh 'deserves' to die either, he is pretty much the villain that Baine and Vol'jin have turned him into. Ever since Thrall appointed him as new warchief they've been boycotting and disobeying him, even in his own throne room declaring he wasn't their warchief anymore. What kind of reaction do you expect to get when you do something like that? In the most realistic scenario and if Garrosh truely had been unforgiving, he would've had Vol'jin slain right there and then, but he didn't. He let him walk away and let him do his thing down on his island at Orgrimmar's doorstep.
And Thrall? He just disappeared after Cataclysm... while he should've returned to offer counceling and keeping the Horde stable.
Garrosh' behaviour is what the Horde created and deserves.
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As for the whole grom/garrosh thing the only real similarities are that they're both aggressive and bloodthirsty, and both have the name hellscream. Their stories are very different.
He's not just an orc, he's the leader of the entire horde, which has 5 other races part of it now which he despises and makes death threats against every chance he gets.I'm confused, being an Orc what has Garrosh done wrong that grants him death?
For a political analogy. Think of the US president, who happens to be black. What if he decided one day that only blacks mattered and he went all Hunger Games on us and made everyone else work in the colonies to provide food and entertainment for the black people he left in the capital all while making comments about how he wished the rest of us would all die because black are superior to everyone and anyone who disagrees is a trator who desrves to be gutted and hung from the gates?
Yeah, I'd want that asshat to die, giving him a stern talking to would only get you an axe to the face.
If it's not an elf, leave it on the shelf.
Garrosh has never been a leader. He was good at inciting war in Northrend, which is what he was sent to do. But he was never a diplomat, which a Warchief needs to be in these days. His 'Orcs reign supreme' attitude can be seem written all over him throughout Cataclysm content, and what people seem to forget is that the Sha only empower emotions. Not instill them.
Garrosh's pride was always there. He always felt this way, the Sha of Pride is only bringing out the actions Garrosh wouldn't do if he weren't possessed. And that doesn't make him any better, he would still oppress the ever living hell out of every non-Orc race. Just not to the point of Genocide.
Garrosh was never a good Warchief. Glad to see him go.
The reason is obvious, he have done TOO MUCH to be alive, everyone want him to be dead because he was killing innocents, treated his allies like trash, using power of the Old God, he just crawled his way.
since wc3 its just the nations of azeroth against scourge and legion. In wow there are old gods and their armies, too. This is why he has to die. there is no room anymore for a war between orcs and humans. If its only about horde vs alliance garrosh would never die in a rebellion, besides he is strongest warchief of all time with that old god power and as a son of grom he was a strong orc to begin with. i am against this rebellion so i do not play anymore. ;>
And i do not think Garrosh is bad enough to justify a rebellion, he finally acts like a true warchief to begin with. former warchiefs often tried to assassinate someone who made trouble - like voljin - still no rebellion of that current ridiculous scale, happened.
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Excerpt from Shadows of the Horde book:
SO only death will end it all.So, I think, it be with Garrosh. Exalted because he was his father's son but hardly revered for himself or his actions, Garrosh was feared by many. He had learned that fear was an effective lash with which to keep subordinates in line. But not all of them cringed at the whip crack.
Because Garrosh felt his position was due as much to his father's memory as it was to his own worthiness, he doubted his standing. If he could see himself as unworthy, clearly others could. I did, and I told him so. Doubt could be hidden, so anyone could be a potential enemy. The only way to eliminate them would be to conquer them. Yet all the conquests in the world would not silence that voice in his head that said "Yes, but you are not your father".
But Garrosh gonna never know peace. That means no one else will.
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Thanks a bunch for the Signature, Cthulhu Ftagn.
Garrosh, a character who masks his insecurities, his doubts and fears and self loathing, with a mask of pride, rage, anger and fear.
Garrosh doesn't need to sha to infect him with negative emotions. Garrosh is already possessed with those negative emotions, being that which dirves him to his actions.
BUT, his fans and others don't understand this. They've thought they understood the character because they liked his outward brovado, so they didn't want to accept he had such faults at his core.
This is why when it comes to revealing all his negative qualities, his fans can't accept it, and even try to exclaim it as 'blizzard throwing this out of nowhere', where, like always, these are people that don't look hard enough at the characters themselves, only whats on the outside.
In short, you were all wrong about garrosh, because you didn't look hard enough at what he was, instead, you just lead yourselves to believe what he could be.
Oh. Another troll's bait *cough* I mean "thread" of Salandrin. Good, very good.
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Wrathion : "We spoke of your Warchief. His inner conflicts and his outer conquests."Doubt could be hidden, so anyone could be a potential enemy. The only way to eliminate them would be to conquer them. Yet all the conquests in the world would not silence that voice in his head that said "Yes, but you are not your father".