Because Alliance will cry that we have a strong Warchief that might take over them. Stupid Alliance.
Because Alliance will cry that we have a strong Warchief that might take over them. Stupid Alliance.
cuz we want blood and Thrall back has leader =D
Because the alliance would end up eventually crushing the horde. Taran Zhu allowing the horde to remain in the vale is contingent on the success of the revolution. If they just give up and say actually we're sticking with this guy, you can effectively add another race that wants to see the horde dismantled.
Plenty of other groups like, that from the various cenarion branches to more dangerous ones like Tirion and the argent crusade, as well as the kirin tor (already coming to kill garrosh), and the knights of the ebon blade. The longer you have a raving lunatic like garrosh at the helm, the more people you find lining up to take you down as you turn yourself into a cliched villain.
Some of the other characters like Baine ****ed up but that doesn't mean Garrosh isn't responsible for his own actions. He wasn't 'turned into' a monster by his fellow horde leaders, he became one himself over time. Garrosh does deserve death, he's done too much to both factions to simply be forgiven.
As for the whole grom/garrosh thing the only real similarities are that they're both aggressive and bloodthirsty, and both have the name hellscream. Their stories are very different.
He's not just an orc, he's the leader of the entire horde, which has 5 other races part of it now which he despises and makes death threats against every chance he gets.I'm confused, being an Orc what has Garrosh done wrong that grants him death?
For a political analogy. Think of the US president, who happens to be black. What if he decided one day that only blacks mattered and he went all Hunger Games on us and made everyone else work in the colonies to provide food and entertainment for the black people he left in the capital all while making comments about how he wished the rest of us would all die because black are superior to everyone and anyone who disagrees is a trator who desrves to be gutted and hung from the gates?
Yeah, I'd want that asshat to die, giving him a stern talking to would only get you an axe to the face.
Your comments are getting more vulgar and much simpler than before.
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The reason is obvious, he have done TOO MUCH to be alive, everyone want him to be dead because he was killing innocents, treated his allies like trash, using power of the Old God, he just crawled his way.
wc1+2 was about humans vs orcs.
since wc3 its just the nations of azeroth against scourge and legion. In wow there are old gods and their armies, too. This is why he has to die. there is no room anymore for a war between orcs and humans. If its only about horde vs alliance garrosh would never die in a rebellion, besides he is strongest warchief of all time with that old god power and as a son of grom he was a strong orc to begin with. i am against this rebellion so i do not play anymore. ;>
And i do not think Garrosh is bad enough to justify a rebellion, he finally acts like a true warchief to begin with. former warchiefs often tried to assassinate someone who made trouble - like voljin - still no rebellion of that current ridiculous scale, happened.
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Excerpt from Shadows of the Horde book:
SO only death will end it all.So, I think, it be with Garrosh. Exalted because he was his father's son but hardly revered for himself or his actions, Garrosh was feared by many. He had learned that fear was an effective lash with which to keep subordinates in line. But not all of them cringed at the whip crack.
Not me.
Because Garrosh felt his position was due as much to his father's memory as it was to his own worthiness, he doubted his standing. If he could see himself as unworthy, clearly others could. I did, and I told him so. Doubt could be hidden, so anyone could be a potential enemy. The only way to eliminate them would be to conquer them. Yet all the conquests in the world would not silence that voice in his head that said "Yes, but you are not your father".
But Garrosh gonna never know peace. That means no one else will.
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Garrosh, a character who masks his insecurities, his doubts and fears and self loathing, with a mask of pride, rage, anger and fear.
Garrosh doesn't need to sha to infect him with negative emotions. Garrosh is already possessed with those negative emotions, being that which dirves him to his actions.
BUT, his fans and others don't understand this. They've thought they understood the character because they liked his outward brovado, so they didn't want to accept he had such faults at his core.
This is why when it comes to revealing all his negative qualities, his fans can't accept it, and even try to exclaim it as 'blizzard throwing this out of nowhere', where, like always, these are people that don't look hard enough at the characters themselves, only whats on the outside.
In short, you were all wrong about garrosh, because you didn't look hard enough at what he was, instead, you just lead yourselves to believe what he could be.
#boycottchina
Oh. Another troll's bait *cough* I mean "thread" of Salandrin. Good, very good.
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Wrathion : "We spoke of your Warchief. His inner conflicts and his outer conquests."Doubt could be hidden, so anyone could be a potential enemy. The only way to eliminate them would be to conquer them. Yet all the conquests in the world would not silence that voice in his head that said "Yes, but you are not your father".
The story is no more focused on the Alliance and the Horde completely destroying each other by the times of WC2, that was excused because the orcs were the baddies there. You want this war lasts forever? That's your problem, but the game followed a different direction by the times of WC3. Deal with it.
You may not have noticed but there is absolutely positively no Sha in him. The Sha of Pride (The last Sha left) was killed before you even step foot into Ogrimmar. The mind of Y'shaarj may have been present within the divided Sha but his heart is simply raw Necrotic power. Garrosh was arrogant and impatient and doubted all of Thrall's decisions before. Even was the first to rush to Violence after an Eredar was summoned at the tournament.
Quite simply he doesn't know when to quit, and right now like ever other moron who tries the "World Domination bit" he's writing a check too big for his wallet. Its either on his throne or on a Stormwind execution block.
Besides do you really want to be behind someone who thinks its wise to cut your total forces down to a 1/6th of their former glory and take on a force 12Xs (per race) your size. Damn that's stupid, but if you want to still follow him go ahead and I'll strip your epics off your warm corpse on my Gnome.
Maybe, but the most important defining thing in WC3 was not the nations exterminated, but the clear understanding that despite animosity, grudge and distrust, humans and orcs were not anymore the good and the bad, but just two different faces of a coin, and the great enemies threatening them became any kind of evil power unrelated with them.
So it's normal that the moment the story run to a total war between them, that war will quickly run out, because in this kind of franchise the universal evil lose, not one of the two factions staying on the relative "good side". The total war and Garrosh bringing it has been a good excuse for move the story, it brought to the annilihation of Theramore and this civil war that is handled in a way that, for how I saw WoW years before, I thought would have been impossible to be properly put in the story, but most importantly, in the game.
If is utter and visible destruction that you want to see and dramatic changes in terms of stability and politics, something could always happen when maybe some big bad would bring destruction on Azeroth (something that could be shown just for some time thanks to the phasing technology) and I think that some city could be even destroyed, or some new land conquered, but regardless Alliance and Horde, in the end, have to remain a constant with similar powers, same number of races inside and similar number of lands conquered, both because is the structure of the MMO balance the two playable factions, but also because this is the kind of direction the game took by WC3: two "good" but still different sides defending the world and themselves by the various destructive and evil threats.
Yeah sounds a little boring always reading "the united efforts of the Horde and Alliance ensured the safety of the world", but at least, while the structure remained the same now (two factions that hate each other uniting against the big bad) at least Garrosh's storyline broke the status quo, and offered something different.
The whole Hellscream line is a disgrace for the Horde, time to put him and all his relatives down for good.