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  1. #81
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    sinister undead doing sinister things......shocking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Combooticus View Post
    Her lust for vengeance has been sated doesnt mean her other feelings have sated too
    "We are still undead sisters.....still.....monstrosities"
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  2. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquamonkey View Post
    Because that's how it worked in the short story. It was a substitution. Annhylde took Sylvanas' place in the afterlife. A soul for a soul.
    And? You're adding fluff that was not stated in the story. All that happened was Annhylde said she would take her place and it was done. There was no explanation, no reasoning. It just happened.
    Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh. You touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
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  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by unholytestament View Post
    And? You're adding fluff that was not stated in the story. All that happened was Annhylde said she would take her place and it was done. There was no explanation, no reasoning. It just happened.
    I guess Annhylde had super bureaucracy powers that she could power through the paperwork for a substitution that would require 3 normal Val'kyr...
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
    No, it's neither harassment NOR ninja'ing to roll on any item the system allows one to.

    Nor is it against any rules to votekick a member from the group - one person can't do it, apparently someone agreed with the rogue.

  4. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquamonkey View Post
    I guess Annhylde had super bureaucracy powers that she could power through the paperwork for a substitution that would require 3 normal Val'kyr...
    You're guessing a lot.

    This thing isn't explained. At all. You have zero reason to believe it works a specific way and that Blizzard is bad for not following that way.
    Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh. You touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
    You exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it.

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  5. #85
    It's a hard concept for many people to grasp that certain things are just the way they are.

    If a banshee is a creature that 'universally, naturally, by laws of the universe' is a being that has to spread pain and misery, then as banshee queen it's not her fault.

    This hinges on the edge of a discussion about crime and responsibility in a deterministic world...
    Maddest of them all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarchor View Post
    It's a hard concept for many people to grasp that certain things are just the way they are.

    If a banshee is a creature that 'universally, naturally, by laws of the universe' is a being that has to spread pain and misery, then as banshee queen it's not her fault.

    This hinges on the edge of a discussion about crime and responsibility in a deterministic world...
    If it were just in her nature then she would have been this way from the start. She wasn't.
    Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh. You touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
    You exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unholytestament View Post
    You're guessing a lot.

    This thing isn't explained. At all. You have zero reason to believe it works a specific way and that Blizzard is bad for not following that way.
    You're the one guessing a lot. You're trying to say it was more complicated than what was explicitly stated. All 9 Val'kyr showed up in the afterlife where Sylvanas was situated. They make an agreement, Annhylde says "I shall take your place," Sylvanas woke up, and it was done. Simple. A substitution.
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
    No, it's neither harassment NOR ninja'ing to roll on any item the system allows one to.

    Nor is it against any rules to votekick a member from the group - one person can't do it, apparently someone agreed with the rogue.

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    Well I'm done here. Have fun pretending that how this thing works was explicitly stated when it absolutely was not.
    Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh. You touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
    You exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Combooticus View Post
    Why are people shocked at what Sylvanas does?

    It always baffles me why people are shocked at what Sylvanas does?

    Shes a fucking banshee dont people know what a banshee is

    Sylvanas was never raised to be a undead she was raised to be a banshee she was the banshee queen and i imagine the pain is increased tenfold cause of that and banshees only reason for existing is to wander the earth spreading misery, insanity and hatred to the mortal races.

    So why do people think that she should shed those emotions that she was raised to feel and cant shed?

    Just cause she found her body doesnt mean she hasnt lost the feelings that make up what she is

    Her lust for vengeance has been sated doesnt mean her other feelings have sated too

    I guess the point of this thread is to say it aint Sylvanas fault that she is turning into a heartless bitch bent on destruction its just in her nature now and cant and prolly never will be helped.
    Undead claim to hate everything about what happened to them, but then are more than happy to do it to others. Their whole motivation for vengeance upon Arthas was because he turned them into what they are. They are a bunch of hypocrites and do not care about the world in any way shape or from which is why no one trusts or cares about them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitandruntactic View Post
    Undead claim to hate everything about what happened to them, but then are more than happy to do it to others. Their whole motivation for vengeance upon Arthas was because he turned them into what they are. They are a bunch of hypocrites and do not care about the world in any way shape or from which is why no one trusts or cares about them.
    No, they hate everything about what the LK made them do while they were Scourge, when they had no free will. Also the actual torment inflicted upon their souls by the LK and Arthas.

    New Forsaken have free will, don't have their souls tormented, and don't have their spirits fed upon.
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    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
    No, it's neither harassment NOR ninja'ing to roll on any item the system allows one to.

    Nor is it against any rules to votekick a member from the group - one person can't do it, apparently someone agreed with the rogue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitandruntactic View Post
    Undead claim to hate everything about what happened to them, but then are more than happy to do it to others.
    being turned into Scourge to fight against your friends and nation isd not a pleasant experience

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitandruntactic View Post
    They are a bunch of hypocrites and do not care about the world in any way shape or from which is why no one trusts or cares about them.
    who the hell cares about the world? Why would people care bout people they hate and fight against?
    So ifs shameful Forsaken care more about their own people then other people? That totally deserves a finger wag...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreknar20 View Post
    who the hell cares about the world? Why would people care bout people they hate and fight against?
    So ifs shameful Forsaken care more about their own people then other people? That totally deserves a finger wag...........
    That's what the nature of an "alliance" or "horde" is; it's a collective.

    The last guy who tried to unilaterally profess his race was to be the greatest and control all the other races for his race's own good is about to have his head rammed on a pike in the next patch.
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Combooticus View Post
    Why are people shocked at what Sylvanas does?
    ...are they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarchor View Post
    It's a hard concept for many people to grasp that certain things are just the way they are.

    If a banshee is a creature that 'universally, naturally, by laws of the universe' is a being that has to spread pain and misery, then as banshee queen it's not her fault.

    This hinges on the edge of a discussion about crime and responsibility in a deterministic world...

    EXACTLY why she must die. It's not her fault. But she's still a threat to the living. And so she has no reason to remain in this world(of Warcraft).

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    Fix your eyes upon your crude hands: the sinew, the soft meat, the dark blood coursing within. It is a weakness; a crippling flaw.... A joke played by the Creators upon their own creations. The sooner you come to accept your condition as a defect, the sooner you will find yourselves in a position to transcend it.
    "Terror, darkness, power? The Forsaken crave not these things; the Forsaken ARE these things."

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    Why did Sylvanas get so angry with Arthas? Because he reanimated her. Because he turned into a monstrosity, so to say. What does she do now, herself? She reanimate people. She even have the nerve to mock Lor'themar in the sound files for SoO for not letting her reanimate his warriors. Hypocrite. Not shocked by it anymore, just annoyed.

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    Undead are dark and sinister undead. How exactly do people expect them to behave and act?
    Should they be full of smiles and giggles passing out candy?
    Do we seriously need every character and race to be perfect lil goody-two-shoes?
    We have faced trials and danger, threats to our world and our way of life. And yet, we persevere. We are the Horde. We will not let anything break our spirits!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narveid View Post
    Why did Sylvanas get so angry with Arthas? Because he reanimated her. Because he turned into a monstrosity, so to say. What does she do now, herself? She reanimate people. She even have the nerve to mock Lor'themar in the sound files for SoO for not letting her reanimate his warriors. Hypocrite. Not shocked by it anymore, just annoyed.
    Sylvanas hated Arthas so much because he tortured her soul and forced her to slaughter her own people.
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
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    Nor is it against any rules to votekick a member from the group - one person can't do it, apparently someone agreed with the rogue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narveid View Post
    Because he turned into a monstrosity, so to say. What does she do now, herself? She reanimate people.
    Because she accepts what she is now, she cant change that.
    Is it better to just die and wait for extinction to take her people?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreknar20 View Post
    Undead are dark and sinister undead. How exactly do people expect them to behave and act?
    Should they be full of smiles and giggles passing out candy?
    Do we seriously need every character and race to be perfect lil goody-two-shoes?
    All must be lawful good or suffer the "wrath" of the righteous.
    "Terror, darkness, power? The Forsaken crave not these things; the Forsaken ARE these things."

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