In SoO, with the new trinkets, it does way too large a portion of our damage on even single target fights - on cleave fights it'll just steamroll everything. It needed a nerf, and personally I think this was a good one. The CD will feel strange because I expect it won't be used on CD, but rather when Amp procs, which is closer to the CD on live. The ceiling on it is lowered significantly though, which was necessary.
However, you're still seriously gimping yourself with Arcane so I guess I won't repeat that anytime soon, on the other hand you might get a few easy rankings.
I still have a feeling there will be a crit nerf at some point as current bis is around 52% crit or 67.6% plus another 6.5% from the 4p on pyroblast. With ilevel increases and possibly epic gems. Hitting 75% crit is entirely possible assuming proper itemization.
Maybe I'll just troll a bit with the title and you guys carry on the discussion
My magic will tear you apart.
I'm hoping that something good will come of all of this, and that Blizzard will somehow balance the Mage class and make it fun to play all three Specs.
"Never underestimate the depth of stupidity." Robert Heinlein
Welllllll if the goal was to not nerf lesser geared mages they have failed.
Originally Posted by Lore
Oki, what the hell is going on?
I mean sure, both of them were kinda crappy and only messed with our QoL rather than real problems, though kinda fearing that the co-efficient nerf is coming now..
WOOHOO we live another day. inc arcane nerfs.
#1 fire mage US. u mirin'?
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- Jenna Jameson
HAHA time to change the title again.
Fire will be nerfed. I really just think, as I've been saying for a while now, that it will be through flat coefficient nerfs.
Tested Fire with the new glyph and without. Playing with glyph and waiting for every amplification nerfs combustion and amplifier trinket theoretically by 25%. Its okay to play and easy to line up with the trinket, because you have enough time to wait for the proc, but it does less damage of course.
Then I tested it without glyph (i have to say, that I played with ilvl 554 equipped but I don´t have the optimal gear for fire) and it´s pretty tricky. You can´t effort to wait for a quality combustion, you have to nearly use it on cd, if you want to line up every second combustion with the amplification trinket. The new T16 4p helps a lot here, because you want to have the "Fiery Adept" buff up just before combustion comes off cooldown. In my last run on dummies, I had ~550k ignite for the opening burst and 70 - 100k for the other combustions (thanks to Fiery Adept).
Blizzard nerfed the trinket for fire mages and the T16 4p will be mandatory not only for lower geared fire mages. It will be interesting to see what Blizzard will do with warlocks, because Arcane Mages and Warlocks are the only left, who will have excessive benefit from the amplification trinket.
*Edit* Scrap the crap, Blizzard reverting changes with the next patch!
Last edited by citizenpete; 2013-07-16 at 12:07 AM.
Reverting them that quickly? Huh, they really don't know what to do with mages this patch. First it was Frosts' mastery, now it's this. Guess that's why it's PTR though, they have time to mess with things to find a sufficient enough solution.