I feel like arcane will be the same as this current tier..It'll be viable if you can figure out how to minimize your movement on every fight.
New blink glyph is 1 charge every 15 seconds up to 2 charges...with blazing speed it'll make getting from RoP A to RoP B much quicker. And be more viable for heavy movement fights.
Last edited by Vynestra; 2013-07-15 at 07:38 PM.
I mean your singling out one of two fights that I underperform as arcane. Durumu and lei shen, and lei shen I do pretty well because of the aoe. Otherwise durumu is the only fight i'd say I don't do "fine" at.
However most other fights I can compete with our fire mage except maybe council? Also our fire mage has 8 more ilvls than me, overall we end up pretty close dps wise, if not me beating him...So..
What's your ilvl, dps on best fight, and logs comparing you to your Fire mage?
Not looking to see you "put your money where your mouth is", would just like to see a fair comparison. We're only 6/13 heroic so not too far ahead of your guild.
For the sake of comparison:
Ji-Kun through Dark Animus: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/8gcnn9zfdaqprano/
My Armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...erick/advanced
I also picked Durumu because T16 is supposedly more movement heavy than T15 is.
Last edited by Scerick; 2013-07-15 at 07:56 PM.
Since there are finally fire nerfs on the PTR, can I close this thread?
My magic will tear you apart.
We aren't doing h ji-kun 25 yet lol. Since we haven't had the people. Theres not really any wol fights you linked I can compare since we've been doing normal ji-kun rather than heroic.
While you did pull 230k on durumu is that a weekly thing or just a really really good parse? Because fire obviously because of rng can have a really good parse, that's out of the normal dps spectrum for a fire mage.
Last edited by Vynestra; 2013-07-15 at 08:10 PM.
Can you at least post your best fights vs the fire mage? I'm sure I can still pull useful information out of it.
Edit: There are also 3 other normal fights linked there.
Last edited by Scerick; 2013-07-15 at 08:17 PM.
Here are a few however he wasn't there for this weeks normal clears (since we lacked people for heroics, again)
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...?s=4296&e=4609 (I was an idiot and didn't have mage armor up lol....)
I'd post iron qon but I got screwed over with positioning in p2 and p3...so I ended up standing doing nothing out of range of the boss.
He also raped me on twins this week, the other twins I linked was my better parse.
Shouldn't have bothered linking primordius, that fight...is not a good dps indicator.
Our gear hasn't changed too much between the parses, we had an off-week for 4th of july as well so. Not much changed. He is however 8 ilvls ahead at i537 to my i529.
Last edited by Vynestra; 2013-07-15 at 08:22 PM.
Thank you Vynestra.
Not to discredit your performance - at all. Looking over your logs it looks like you do very well at a glance for Arcane.
That being said, as I suspected the fire mage in your guild doesn't put up the numbers his character is capable of, which I think may have artificially boosted arcane's perceived performance. That being said, you are doing much more than our Frost mage (also why I asked for your logs) is doing on a lot of those fights.
Seriously, I'd love them to just do a flat nerf on CM instead of this bullcrap. Huge QoL nerf. As if we didn't have enough un-fun bullshit in our class already (I'm looking at you, invocation).
Or rename it to "Fire nerfs on PTR" lol
I must say you are basically a full tier of gear ahead of me (13 ilvls) While you seem to do very well, I believe if I had your kind of gear, I could be pulling really high numbers as well, I wouldn't be pulling 230k on durumu no. But I would say I could throw up very competitive numbers on other fights.
I think arcane can compete with fire, top mages have said that overall their dps is about the same. Fire just seems to be more popular really. I don't think it's a question of if arcane can compete this tier, it's a question of if arcane can compete NEXT tier.
EDIT: Also I used to be fire, and switched to arcane because I just couldn't pull the numbers I needed, I can't be 100% amazing at fire, I find I do better dps as arcane. Fire has a higher skill cap in the rotation and more rng, where arcane is important to do your rotation correctly, arcane is more about minimizing your movement. Which I can do better than maximizing fire's skill cap dps.
Last edited by Vynestra; 2013-07-15 at 08:39 PM.
Thread complaining about fire mages?
How did I know it was you, Cher? :P
Also as others said there's been no tuning pass yet.
Like I said at a first glance you definitely put up some good numbers, especially for your iLvL. I mainly wanted to see your logs to see what the Fire mage was doing (you are by far the better mage).
Would love to chat sometime, in real time to theorycraft if you're up for it, PM me your battle tag and I'll add you when I get home.
So have we missed the "spell change" phase of the PTR? I mean, is there still hope they will change some of our spells or do we only have the number twicking patch to look forward to? Looking at the patch note mages have gotten the least amount of attention, no question about it. Still hoping for a lvl 90 talent redesign.