View Poll Results: Would you like a mixed PvP / PvE BG / Raid?

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    DoTA PvP / PvE Mixed Battleground / Raid?

    Not sure if this has been brought up before, but wouldn't it be pretty amazing with a DoTA-style battleground in WoW?

    For those of you not familiar with Defence of the Ancients, or MOBA as the genre is now called (League of Legends, etc.), you have 2 factions - each with a corner of its own for bases, shops and spawn points. Then you have lanes running diagonally across the map, through the wilderness, between the two bases. There are also smaller paths through the wild, short cuts if you will, where you can find monsters.

    NPC units race down the lanes towards the enemy bases, and it is up the players to defeat those units as well as the players from the opposing faction. You level up, have skills, purchase gear, etc. Once the enemy base is destroyed, you win the game. See the image below for a very basic layout. The Red and Blue squares are opposing bases, and the yellowish squares are contested regions in the middle where you fight. The grey are lanes.


    So imagine if we could have that in battleground style, but that you could also get loot and experience from all the NPCs, monsters and bosses you kill during play? The main difficulty would obviously be PvP and keeping the other players in check, while also trying to destroy their base. But I think being able to kill monsters and bosses would be a nice boon.

    Certain rules would have to be put in place to make sure none of the two sides cooperate to milk the battleground for the monsters.
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    Actually it was one of the things blizz had announced for MoP a long time ago that just never happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellixen View Post
    Actually it was one of the things blizz had announced for MoP a long time ago that just never happened.
    This is true - Defense of the Alehouse. It has been scrapped for this expansion officially as of a few weeks back.

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    I was actually thinking about this awhile ago such as a huge bg or outdoor world pvp like tol barad but bigger meaning that tol barad with wintergarsp combined in a DotA styled map that the battleground or outdoor area you're able to leave it anytime you want and still get honor etc... That would totally be awesome

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    I hope they scrapped it because they want to give the DotA-style BGs their own gear-progression and flesh out it's functionality.

    It would be absolutely awesome to have a 5vs5 battleground like this in which you'd have to farm mobs for some kind of currency to buy buffs for during the game. The more they can make it exactly like DotA, with leveling up skills and gearslots, the better.
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    Problem is, it would be an incredibly simplified version of Dota.

    I heard they were going to make Blizzard Allstars, that functions with battlenet. That would be a better option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarchor View Post
    I hope they scrapped it because they want to give the DotA-style BGs their own gear-progression and flesh out it's functionality.

    It would be absolutely awesome to have a 5vs5 battleground like this in which you'd have to farm mobs for some kind of currency to buy buffs for during the game. The more they can make it exactly like DotA, with leveling up skills and gearslots, the better.
    Can't agree more. If they can come as close as possible to a real DotA while still having the "wow gameplay" for the hero you play (same camera, skill bind, tab targeting, etc.), they can reach pure awesomness (bacon wraped level at least).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommo View Post
    Problem is, it would be an incredibly simplified version of Dota.
    Maybe. I think they have the know-how to make certain PvE abilities usable in PvP nowadays, such as taunt. Just force a PvP-target to auto-attack you for x seconds whenever you use taunt on it and stuff like that. It could see them making it work, it would start out with 1vs1 in the lanes (or 2vs2) and then ends in 5vs5 arena-like matches.

    If they gave DotA-style battlegrounds their own progression path (gear, rankings, etc.) I could see myself getting addicted to WoW once more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ealyssa View Post
    Can't agree more. If they can come as close as possible to a real DotA while still having the "wow gameplay" for the hero you play (same camera, skill bind, tab targeting, etc.), they can reach pure awesomness (bacon wraped level at least).
    That's their goal and sadly they haven't found a way yet to make it pure gold.
    And blizzard don't want good, they want great.

    So it can take a while before this will ever happen.

    but if we know blizzard it will kick ass!
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    We specifically asked about Defense of the Alehouse at the Q&A we got with the WoW devs and were told no dice
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    Meh, not too fond of DotA, the way it took over the old WCIII Battle.net and pushed some good maps out of the picture left a sour taste in my mouth. I have enough faith in Blizzard to trust that it won't be horrible, but I'm not "super stoked" for it.

    As for PvE/PvP Bg, something like a "modernized Old-AV" would be nice. If done right it could be fun and not the #1 source of sleep deprivation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pejo View Post
    This is true - Defense of the Alehouse. It has been scrapped for this expansion officially as of a few weeks back.
    Yeah, made me and my husband VERY angry.

    We've moved on, but I would still LOVE to see this! Or something like it.

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    Im not so sure about mixing pvp/pve, like 70% of AV matches have horde and allies just running past each other, the rest of em, half the group drops.

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    This would be nice to have....Announced by Blizzard before MoP launches.

    Oficial blues (from our personal PVP section guild forum copy/paste 2.4.2012):
    DoTA Style Battleground as a Potential E-sport
    The biggest problem with releasing this battleground is that it requires some new tech, however we would very much love to be able to release the DotA-style Battleground during the Mists of Pandaria Life cycle.

    Regarding this particular battleground becoming an eSport, I see that as all depending on the community and the support that it is given. I personally would love to see more World of Warcraft eSports, I find myself spending loads of time watching streams and videos of arena and rated battlegrounds...they are ridiculously entertaining!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blarglord69 View Post
    Im not so sure about mixing pvp/pve, like 70% of AV matches have horde and allies just running past each other, the rest of em, half the group drops.
    easily solved imo.. the first boss (like Galv/Balinda in AV) will have additional mobs equal to the number of horde killed (yh yh or alliance) before you encounter the boss. added 'ghost' mobs are distributed equally over boss, towers, Drek. this forces to have a big clash at the start of the game to have the advantage of winning the game by creating extra 'npc' defenders.
    Last edited by Bruint; 2013-07-08 at 10:54 AM.

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