esiest solution will be looking for a guiodl that is or has a 2nd or 3rd raid team - just make a topic on wowforums on your realm section and im sure somebody will repsond if your really that eager to learn.
I Just came back 3 weeks ago with Ilvl 489 on my toon I am now 511 and have cleared 6/12 normal. to get in a group I needed Ilvl 498 or better and to voice the fact that I had done lfr and watched the videos. My advice, if you are not a on a high pop server go to one and raid with some 2/12 scrubs for a week get 2 bosses down and go from there.
To the OP, I do recommend you try putting together a pug yourself. You will most likely understand then why people want some experience. Unless you can find 10 people who are willing to come together weekly and work on progression together, at which point you have a informal guild. Like others have said, finding a 4/12 or 6/12 guild and offering to be a substitue is a good way to get experience. I purposely joined a guild that was 5/12 on a alt because I figured their standards would be low on letting someone sub in (what they didn't know is I was already 12/12 at the time) and a month later that guild is now 10/12 (not because of me) and I started with them with a 501 ilvl
You're on the most populated\progressed EU server there is. Something seems really wrong that you can't find a Pug or Guild that you can get some kills with. You should be able to throw together a fail group that should be able to get the first 2-3 bosses down
Last edited by Mad_Murdock; 2013-07-05 at 12:38 PM.
That thing exist only in wow. The first big mmo where it can happen.
Another key point is that you can watch all the videos and read all the strats, and it's still no substitute for actually DOING it. The videos you see are usually the Xth pull of the boss kill, not the first couple of pulls where nobody was really sure how things would play out, so videos usually make the fights look much easier than they are. Text strats are worse because it doesn't give you a real visual of anything, so you might know that the boss uses Death Ray at 50% health, but have no idea what it looks like.
There is NO substitute for actually seeing the fight firsthand and, more often than not, wiping at least once to go "Oh okay so THAT'S what Death Ray looks like, I understand now" and then you know what to look for.
Should you expect a pug to teach you everything? Very doubtful except in some extreme cases (a noob-friendly pug designed to teach, which is as rare as hen's teeth but can happen), but the typical pug has no patience and is a selfish ass anways so that's expected. On the flip side though, it should be expected that if you get into a pug and you say that you've seen videos but not done the fight, that somebody should explain a quick "Yeah Death Ray is a frontal cone, so when he's about to hit 50% make sure you're not in front of him" kind of thing to clarify the mechanics based on real-life experience not watching a video that was recorded after umpteen attempts to show the kill.
I really have to level an alt on soe eng speaking server, the amount of horrible experience takl from healthy (population wise) servers is just too much to just watch. I play on mostly one sided (horde) and one language(CZ/SK) server and not having problems to go into almost any PuG if I have decent gear, I even scored 2 normal kills on my horrible geared Tank ( http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...forth/advanced ) where I left after Jinrok because it cant take more atm.
Its just how you talk to the PuG leader and how hard is to form pug at the time (no one is likely to kick/decline when they form pug at 23:00 trying a night run).
Another already mentioned is starting your own pug, dont expect to require any EXP (as you dont have them) or gear higher than yours (510 can beat 12/12), you can get lucky and score more than you expect or at least 1/12 (come on, everyone is capable killing Jinrok today)
So the choice is either wasting 20 hit above cap or wasting 320 of your statbudget to stamina, and you went for the stamina... why exactly?I have stamina gems because the only other option is hit gems. I can drop my cloak reforge, but it would basically put me 40 rating below cap or 20 rating above cap.
might wanna go knock some normal msv,hof,toes on openraid to get some raiding experience going then go find a decent friday/saturday alt run ToT(maybe some guild if they are nice)
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I don't know anything about EU servers. But maybe you're just in a server filled with immature people. PErhaps you should find a server that accomodates your style more.
I think the next pug I'll attempt to join, I'll offer 500G for the guild bank for every wipe they can prove comes from me not knowing the fight, either through attacking the wrong target, dying to something easily avoidable, of causing someone elses death by bad play. just good old fashioned bribing.
And folks wonder why LFR is so popular.
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