You only want to install Java 7. There's no reason to use Java 6 and 7 unless you're a developer and you'll know which version you require if that's the case.
Download and install the 32-bit JRE for Java 7. http://download.oracle.com/otn-pub/j...ndows-i586.exe
(Unless the application you are using is 64-bit the 32-bit java is used. It doesn't matter if your OS is 64-bit)
If you have Windows Vista or Windows 7 64-bit you may also need to install the 64-bit version of Java 7. http://download.oracle.com/otn-pub/j...indows-x64.exe
(This is to cover the 1% of applications using a 64-bit JRE. For example, clicking start, all programs and choosing Internet Explorer (64-bit). By default you are using the 32-bit version).
Here's the direct link if you don't trust me. http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/ja...s-1880261.html
32-bit is Windows x86 offline.
64-bit is Windows x64.
Maybe Flex raiding will help with this, like you can atleast show that you have downed all bosses in Flex, which show you know atleast basics of the figths, + it will be a smaller gear gap between lfr to normal.
Last edited by Hjelpen; 2013-07-09 at 08:42 PM.
Try finding 25s.
They're likely to grab someone when most of their squad are absent.
Guilds who bitch about not being able to find good candidates will simply continue to suffer unless they adapt. Simple.
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In most scenarios you will be able to convince them to take you. If they will then just don't screw up. Participate and share your knowledge on some of the mechanics, maybe watch some videos about the tactics. Be prepared and show that they need you. Then you'll be the last one to be replaced.
Lack of experience does not mean they don't have the capability to learn.Why would they take someone without experience who is more likely to fuck it up because they haven't actually done it?
I got into a PuG run with no achievements or experience back in ICC one time. Everyone was skeptical, deal was if I screw up and end up taking more heals than other DPS or die to something avoidable once, I'm out. Also, I get no gear if it drops. That was their price, and I needed to break into the raiding scene so I took it.
Asked for basic tactics on the fights, and asked for someone I could follow in the fight. I ended up doing better than the class leader for that guild for the class I was playing, which was Death Knight. Took similar amounts of damage to as everyone else and only died from a wipe that wasn't my fault. We got to the gunship and called it a nightdue to multiple wipes because the other DPS couldn't take care of the boarding parties in time and the healers couldn't keep the tanks up.
Point is, simply because someone has no experience killing a specific boss doesn't mean they don't have experience playing the game, also, just because someone has a kill record doesn't mean they're any good...they could have easily been carried through that kill.
This is a weak and terrible argument...if you wanted flawless runs through a raid, you wouldn't be PuG'ing it to begin with.
I like how none of the suggestions on this forum actually address the actual problem at hand.
Get a guild: Like its just that easy to just get in a guild that full clears normal
LFR Doesn't count as experience: I'm sorry but it totally does. All you do is say its like LFR except "x" so if they know how to do the LFR fight chances are they can do the normal mode encounter if they just account for the X factor.
Be more sociable and make wow friends: What the hell does that even mean how do you make friends in this game? hang out in trade chat? Manually form a LFD group?
Form your own pug: unfortunately this probably is the best option most people don't check the pug former's achievements so you might get away with it. Otherwise I suggest an achievement spoof-er and just watch a fatboss or tankspot guide.
maybe you should join a real guild and not join some random through trade chat. you're the one making excuses, wanting confirmation that you know what you're doing isn't a "lame excuse", it's not even an excuse.
It is that easy to get in a guild that full clears normals. Guilds that are just 12/12 normal have members or are recruiting members far below them in experience and gear.
Honestly, it will always be a matter of opinion and the only ones who's opinion actually counts, are those who form the group. You may disagree completely, think they're elitist scum, selfish for not wanting teach newer players etc. but at the end of the day, that doesn't change the fact, that the people who form the group, gets to decide the terms of which you can join on.
I don't think it's fair to blame others for how they chose to run their pug group, cause nobody's forcing you to join. There's always that option of forming your own pug group and make your own rules. Then you could bring 9 other players who've only done LFR but who believe they know the tactics well enough to kill some bosses.
Personally I wouldn't wanna join such a group, unless it was the last day before the reset. I actually ended up pugging on my alt yesterday evening. It was a semi guild run and they were progressing on Normal Megaera, which led to many wipes. I was thinking that several of them were underperforming, but I joined on their premise and therefore I kept my mouth shut and tried to help them with the tactics.
My point is, unless you form your own group, I don't really think you have the right to complain. There's no rule dictating how players are supposed to run pug groups and thank god for that.
If you are an EU player, use the official forums looking for guild section.
It's player's market, and there are literally hundreds of guilds looking for you.
I don't know about the US market.
Another advice would be patience. Don't jump at the first offer. Just because they are sitting there pressing F5 every 2 minutes doesn't mean they are right for you. And always be honest about yourself and what you want and expect.
Well, first off...just try to get a few buddies/guild to run you through.
2.Relax and cool off, it's summer.
Unfortunately, this has happened to me before its the cycle of "I can't get a job because I don't have experience because I don't have a job because I don't have experience" and it keeps going on and on in a circle.