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  1. #81
    Does wow even have like a Geneva convention type thing for rules of warfare,i bet you when stuff goes south you'll do anything to win.

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    Attacking a land with just rock and stone is different then atomic bombing it.

    people aren't able to live there anymore, it's like the bombs on japan, people weren't able to live there too anymore.

    That's wasted ground.

    And if Garrosh will live, then he will do this again for sure.
    Garrosh is that kind of person if he sees that he can't win the normal way then he will be that asshole that will use other things to try to win, aka nukes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blarglord69 View Post
    Does wow even have like a Geneva convention type thing for rules of warfare
    lol there are some things in that I think are bullshit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquamonkey View Post
    The Legion's goal isn't conquest. It's the destruction of every Titan planet in the universe.
    In practice, the Legion scours all life from the worlds it invades.

    Theramore won't be inhabitable for years, decades, maybe ever. Vale of Eternal Blossoms is destroyed thanks to Garrosh with no regard given to the consequence.

    Garrosh's Horde doesn't seem to be building new lives in the places it conquers so much as destroying what's there, taking what they want, and moving on. I'm not seeing a vast difference in his conquest and the Legion's version. They exist to conquer Titan worlds and return them to chaos rather than order.

    If you can't see how the Horde would see Theramore's desolation of all forms of life as being a parallel to the destruction of the Legion, and how Garrosh's Horde is intentionally a parallel to the bloodlust Horde of the Legion, I dunno what more to say. I thought it was rather obvious that was Blizzard's intention with the story heading down this path with Garrosh being more and more extreme.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blarglord69 View Post
    i bet you when stuff goes south you'll do anything to win.
    Likewise, this isnt a soccer game, its war
    A differnece between life and death, the prospering of your nation or just becoming a page in a history book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    Given the fact that they failed to conquer azeroth like 5 times already, i wouldnt say that they are hopping from planet to planet. More like "suffering humiliating defeat after defeat because your leader is potato".
    We don't know that they suffer defeat on other planets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gimlix View Post
    people aren't able to live there anymore, it's like the bombs on japan, people weren't able to live there too anymore.
    better to own damaged land then to leave not damaged land in the hands of your enemy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gimlix View Post
    Garrosh is that kind of person if he sees that he can't win the normal way then he will be that asshole that will use other things to try to win, aka nukes.
    errrr.......in war the stakes are kinda high....its not the same as a chess game
    If you cant win "normally" why shouldt u look for not so normal ways? Thats how guerilla warfare came about
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreknar20 View Post
    lol there are some things in that I think are bullshit
    If Garrosh had any honor, he'd put down his rock, Varian would put down his sword, and they'd kill each other like civilized people!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gimlix View Post
    Attacking a land with just rock and stone is different then atomic bombing it.

    people aren't able to live there anymore, it's like the bombs on japan, people weren't able to live there too anymore.

    That's wasted ground.

    And if Garrosh will live, then he will do this again for sure.
    Garrosh is that kind of person if he sees that he can't win the normal way then he will be that asshole that will use other things to try to win, aka nukes.
    This is nothing new to nukes. Ever hear of salting the earth to make land uninhabitable?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreknar20 View Post
    better to own damaged land then to leave not damaged land in the hands of your enemy
    Until you do it so much that Durotar is the most flourishing land left and you kinda screwed up what you set out to do in the first place.

    Man, that's a "What If" story all in itself there.
    Hmmm....Blizzard could do a lot of awesome "What If..." stories like Marvel used to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faroth View Post
    Until you do it so much that Durotar is the most flourishing land left and you kinda screwed up what you set out to do in the first place.
    Losing the war against the Alliance has the same effect
    We have faced trials and danger, threats to our world and our way of life. And yet, we persevere. We are the Horde. We will not let anything break our spirits!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faroth View Post
    In practice, the Legion scours all life from the worlds it invades.

    Theramore won't be inhabitable for years, decades, maybe ever. Vale of Eternal Blossoms is destroyed thanks to Garrosh with no regard given to the consequence.

    Garrosh's Horde doesn't seem to be building new lives in the places it conquers so much as destroying what's there, taking what they want, and moving on. I'm not seeing a vast difference in his conquest and the Legion's version. They exist to conquer Titan worlds and return them to chaos rather than order.

    If you can't see how the Horde would see Theramore's desolation of all forms of life as being a parallel to the destruction of the Legion, and how Garrosh's Horde is intentionally a parallel to the bloodlust Horde of the Legion, I dunno what more to say. I thought it was rather obvious that was Blizzard's intention with the story heading down this path with Garrosh being more and more extreme.
    There is a difference. Garrosh nuked Theramore to cripple the Alliance's military so it would be easier to conquer the rest of Kalimdor and get those resources. The Legion kills everything just to kill everything, there is no greater plan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreknar20 View Post
    Losing the war against the Alliance has the same effect
    The Alliance never waged war on the Horde. They've been entirely on the offensive!

    Which, I would like to once again point out, remains the beautiful perfection of the Twilight Hammer's perfectly executed ploy. All of Mists of Pandaria is a direct result of the Twilight Hammer possibly even more than anything Garrosh did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquamonkey View Post
    The Legion kills everything just to kill everything.
    Join the Legion today!
    See new Worlds! Meet New races! Then destroy them all!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreknar20 View Post
    Join the Legion today!
    See new Worlds! Meet New races! Then destroy them all!
    "Join us and we'll kill your worthless mortal selves quickly" is a better slogan IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquamonkey View Post
    There is a difference. Garrosh nuked Theramore to cripple the Alliance's military so it would be easier to conquer the rest of Kalimdor and get those resources. The Legion kills everything just to kill everything.
    But that's not true either. If it were, there would be no eredar lords, no nathrezim, no succubi or imps, etc. All these members of the Legion come from worlds of their own, so they don't kill just to kill. They seek to unravel the structured order.

    For example, the Legion apparently don't really have much interest in doing anything to Durotar. It is as it is, not what the Titans made it. The only interest they had in the planet was the draenei and orcs as a tool to use against Azeroth.

    We can't be totally sure, but thus far what we know of Sargeras is he's focused on Titan touched planets. If the planet is in its original, natural and thus chaotic state, he doesn't really care.

    Hell, as much chaos as the mortals of Azeroth cause, one wonders if we do Sargeras proud more than the Legion. If not for that pesky Well of Eternity's power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faroth View Post
    The Alliance never waged war on the Horde. They've been entirely on the offensive!
    yet losing the war against the Alliance will have as much disaster to the Horde as throwing around crazy weapons
    We have faced trials and danger, threats to our world and our way of life. And yet, we persevere. We are the Horde. We will not let anything break our spirits!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreknar20 View Post
    yet losing the war against the Alliance will have as much disaster to the Horde as throwing around crazy weapons
    Logically, it would now after all that's happened.

    Realistically.....nah, it won't do anything. Ya'll gon' be okay.

    Damn those Twilight cultists in Ashenvale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faroth View Post
    Damn those Twilight cultists in Ashenvale.
    The Horde and Alliance were resentful toward each other even without the Cultists doing their thing
    We have faced trials and danger, threats to our world and our way of life. And yet, we persevere. We are the Horde. We will not let anything break our spirits!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreknar20 View Post
    The Horde and Alliance were resentful toward each other even without the Cultists doing their thing
    Resentful, yes, but it was the sentinels who were skinned alive and the Horde symbol painted on trees in their blood that caused the Night Elves to end the Horde's hunting and foresting rights in Ashenvale and put up trade blockades in the area, causing stress on the Horde's dwindling resources after Cataclysm.

    It was honestly the catalyst that sparked Garrosh's push to open war. If that hadn't happened, he would not have had as much reason and support for open war to take what they wanted (and needed).

    Plus, the Alliance thinking the Horde was responsible for the attacks only added fuel to the fire. Prior to all this, there were newly establish peace treaties in place after Northrend.

    And neither side knows the truth to this day.
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