He didn't say your DPS was wasted. He said the reason you ranked was not due to your skill being better than others but due to different factors.
AoE has a 20-target cap, and even with all the ball lightning that spawns, there are not enough adds that spawn to hit that cap.
If you swap back and forth from:
(Only damage done to unharnessed in the last phase.)
(Only damage done to ball lightning in last phase)
Any damage that you did to unharnessed while aoeing the ball lightning is all extra damage that would not be there otherwise, because you would not be doing anything else there. For the most part you only hit the unharnessed when the ball lightning was up, so my 16 million estimate was a tad over, but 12-13 million is still 7-8% of your overall damage.
Please, keep it civil.
Also, "your claims are only advanced theory crafting, mines are based on biased experiments" is not really a line that would convince anyone here.
If someone proves something with TC, yo won't prove him wrong by saying "I do otherwise and I still have a huge dps". You will prove him wrong by pointing out his mistakes or at least by showing that, on a great sample, people who act otherwise perform better.
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Shocking news apparently parses on Lei Shen are about how bad your guild is at soaking bolts and AOEing adds. Hear more, after what's coming up next, you can't rank #1 on Ji-kun if you're not on a super optimal nest rotation.
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Not really. It's either padding, RPPM RNG, or some variance in your specific strat which gives you a one-up over others. I had a handful of #1s on progression (N+H) that were with me playing exactly the way I should be to kill a boss.
Yeah back in my old guild I had a few P2.5 pushes where I was sitting at like 250k. If we had killed it those attempts, probably would have finished like 260k~. All it means is that people suck at soaking adds + you are carrying add damage, either due to lack of good players or lack of able players.
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I remember Yor'sarjh, for instance. The #1 of several classes belonged to Freak Me Out (the 10HM French guild who lost too many member after T14, sadly. ) because their strat was to always let black+yellow combination happens so that one player assigned to aoe would be amazing. There have been a lot of examples of such behavior over the years of raid using a different strat only to allow one player to rank very high.
I don't even mention Tricks of the trade fest that often appears.
Our raid we have stunners, grippers, etc. Balls last around 3 to 4 secs tops. So I have to cancel my reckstorms/bladestorms Then use the remainder of my recklessness, banner on the boss. But if I don't reckstorm them I'm only going to make the aoe last longer right?
Currently TG but rarely ever get past 200k and have the lowest boss damage but some of the highest on adds. Just one of those fights its hard to tell what to go with sometimes. Logs I looked at a few months ago showed people using reckstorm.
Maybe avatar, since BB goes to waste on adds where as avatar would get used more on boss + adds. But every class has this problem I'm sure adds die fast no one gets to get a long aoe session in, but if half the people decided to stop using their aoe then the adds would live longer making us have to use more stuns and make the fight harder.
good chance those stunners will be dead in p3 (so, never hurts to have an extra stun). Avatar isn't the best choice outside of arena/bgs. Just don't use BB on the ads. They die in seconds, so just hold off on using it for a second or two.
3 fury warriors alternate Bladestorm for adds? Good idea?
This whole argument that fury shouldn't aoe the adds is a bit silly. Why aren't other classes "Stealing" raid dps when they do it? When it comes to sheer burst AoE, there isn't an ability in the game that is equal or better than bladestorm. (Maybe other than a monk tank) This whole notion that fury shouldn't do what fury does best is a bit silly, and makes us seem like second class citizens. The faster ball lightning die, the faster everyone can swap back to Lei Shen.
Bladestorm isn't a single target dps loss, I don't know when it was removed from the default action list on simcraft, but I just added it back.
(all are single target)
dragon roar - 206.6k
Bladestorm - 201.8k
No use of dragon roar or bladestorm. - 199.7k
With a 60 second cooldown, it'll be even closer to dragon roar.