Definitely, i'd like to lose my virginity somewhere! I'm friggin 27 and there is no legal place to do it (without finding gf), i'm not ugly, fat or anything, so i say it's hard for introverts that spend work and play time behind computer to get laid, so hell yeah, i do want brothels!
Some street prostitute might have something, but certified brothel would definitely have some health standards!
You are also expected to know what you want when you are 18-21 years old. I see so many people around me with very good education but are not using it at all for various reasons.
And I honestly think some people enjoy being in the sex industry (also women). Maybe they don't dream about being a prostitute/pornstar but some do enjoy it.
Cannabis is legal here. There are no real major problems. Only some drugtourists but I personally don't think it's such a big deal.
In my hometown they forced coffeeshops to close only because some kids who went there to buy cannabis were hanging around outside which wasn't an appriopate place to hand around and smoke weed. So it's not like there is no control over it.
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Wrong. Selling sex is often more than a simple trade or, as some self-assumed "champions of liberty" want to view it, as a matter of having the freedom to do what oneself wants with his/her body. Besides the fact that it would be very hard to find someone in decent socio-economical conditions to turn to prostitution, the whole human-rights issues associated with it won't really stop whether it is legalized or not.Selling sex is nothing more than the trade of service between two consenting adults
Very naive view of how sexual attraction works, if you ask me. Directly selling sex is something people do, most of the time, for survival. Paying for a drink and then having the other person interested in you for casual sex is completely normal, and also harmless, because it doesn't imply that you're a girl in your early twenties desperate to get money for college or anyone else in any kind of degrading conditions.If you give the girl money, then she has sex with you, that's a crime and it should be banned at all costs!
If you give the girl a drink (which you buy with money), then she has sex with you, that's ok.
I honestly don't understand why people still against prostitution...
Really, these people trying to push prostitution as the pinnacle of human freedom are kind of ridiculous
IMO prostitution is going to happen regardless of any laws. So it might as well be legalised to an extent so that it can be controlled to ensure everyone's safety. Set out the relavent laws for brothels, come down hard on anyone not following those laws and I don't see a problem with it. As long as the people working their are doing so because they want to - non of this trafficing malarkey or forced drug abuse etc!
Legal in Amsterdam, The Netherlands and Antwerp, Belgium.
Though it's not a ''brothel'' by definition ( not 1 bunch of girls in 1 house offering drinks ) , each girl just has her own window where you can talk with her and negotiate terms and then it's up to a room rented by the girl in question ( most of them come with a shower / sink and 2 person bed )
Both places are quite a light spectacle if you go during night time. ( Neon Lights OP )
Women are what you expect ( 18-30, Mainly eastern European with a few % being Italian or Spanish ), think Amsterdam also has quite a few Dutch girls but been a while since I walked that place.
Make no illusion though, every girl there has a pimp and needs to cut profit.
A few I talked to actually said they like the money involved ( I know one girl gets up to 10 customers on peak days , which averages to 500 Euro's before ''paying up'' )
Legal selling of sex will lead to more exploitation, desperation, and entrapment then having it be illegal.
I was disgusted by the blog of this "rights activist". She is against health checks and mandatory registrations. Instead of addressing the numerous issues caused by the legalization she only talks about "human rights".Courtisane Carmen: independent escort - pansexual non-monogamist - sexworker rights activist - cultural bohème berlin
Seriously, and with all do respect, get off your high horse.
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Not every sex worker rights activist will be against the health checks and registrations. Personally, I think most will be on board with those. As for your denouncing of this particular one because she's not 'addressing the numerous issues caused by the legelization,' you must understand that those issues will be solved automatically if the subject of 'human rights' gets tackled. And yes, part of legalization is proper registration.The goals of these movements are diverse but generally aim to destigmatize sex work and ensure fair treatment before legal and cultural forces on a local and international level for all persons in the sex industry.
But sure; why don't you cherry pick. After all; Cybran does as Cybran please. Always cherry-picking to make people who don't agree with you look bad.
1) this is how a brothel in actually could/should/would run. And it's not cheap. $400 an hour is really very expensive. Most people looking to get laid or just blown don't want to spend that kind of money, thus, as you mentioned there is also illegal venues and as thus, I'd assume less sanitary, less health checks, etc.... Just because one brothel checks out to be good doesn't equate to all being clean and well run.
2) I lol'ed when you said the woman had a successful career outside of her work there. You realize she's a professional right? She gets paid to make your fantasy come true. Thus having a woman who pretends to want to have sex with you is more attractive as someone who doesn't need to be there to pay the bills. Not saying she doesn't have work outside of the brothel, just that it's unlikely. And that's not a bad thing, it just is what it is
I don't know why it's illegal. There are women who marry men to just get out of their countries. Instead of marrying, they might prefer to trade in sex for a while, and build up money and move on to other things. They are right now selling themselves to one man, there is no one around to protect them, if they complain they will probably end up being back in their country. A brothel could provide protection. I don't think having relations with many men is better for a woman than one man, but there's more financial and physical security working at some place.
I don't think I'd want to go and be with a woman who's had more partners that day than I had ever ... so I don't think everyone automatically would run to brothels.
I say no, but only in principle. Our society is already geared toward the lowest common denominator anyway, so the social and legal stigma of paying for sex (or being paid for sex) being removed probably isn't going to push it over the edge at this point, it'll just be the next step towards our becoming another third world sludge pit that is governed by its genitals.
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Sure. I really don't see a problem of two consenting adults making a deal.
Of course it ought to be legal.
The main reason is because it shouldn't be illegal for two consenting adults to make an arrangement amongst themselves that doesn't affect others. This rests on principles of freedom of expression/bodily autonomy. And you also have the fact that if it is legally carried out, it can be done in a way to make it less harmful to all parties involved, in terms of preventing the spread of STDs, etc.
Humans like every other animal on earth has sex. Humans are one of a small handful that have it for pleasure. So yes i think brothels should be legal in every state since it's just natural.
Better clean and regulated then diseased and pimped.
Thinking it would have little effect here in the west.
The vast majority of prostitutes in Europe 1st world countries.
- Are not from the country in which they work.
- Rarely speak the language, sometimes English, not always.
- Are working for a pimp as ''slave''.
The local women/men who do this sort of business.
- some don't want the world to know, and their identities would be impossible to keep a secret.
- Some don't really want to do it. They are often driven by a real need for cash (as in, get money or drop out on education, drugs or house/apartment).
- Some don't want the world to know. Discretion between two people is allot easier than if we had a building dedicated to this kind of business.
At the end of the day, a brothel would only benefit the few who would openly work and the few who would openly buy.