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  1. #361
    Quote Originally Posted by Endemonadia View Post
    Absolutely correct... but 1.3million ex-Wow players say hi.

    The FACT that such an unprecidented amount of players leaving the game shouts loud and clear there are issues right now at this moment in Wow.

    Its obvious that the psychology of the players who remain will think that the game is fine, i can live with that. But i must stand up against totally misinformed and clueless statements such as ur making.
    Here we go with made up numbers again. The facts remain, without LFR there would be far far less raid content made for the raider. I am happy there is an LFR because it means more Raid content more often. If thats 1.3 million elitists then I say good riddence.

  2. #362
    Quote Originally Posted by DeadmanWalking View Post
    Here we go with made up numbers again. The facts remain, without LFR there would be far far less raid content made for the raider. I am happy there is an LFR because it means more Raid content more often. If thats 1.3 million elitists then I say good riddence.
    made up numbers? ru for real?

    How exactly are 1.3million players unsubbing in 1 quarter 'made up'?

    Please explain that to me cos im pretty sure Blizzards accountants would like to know how u know its wrong.

  3. #363
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadmanWalking View Post
    Do you listen to yourself when you get all wrapped up in your nerd-rage? My argument is 'There are millions of reasons why millions of people left' and you think that accusing me of not knowing everything some how dismantles my argument? I'm starting to question whom I am debating with because you seem incapable of having an intellectual discussion on the topic. Hot shot? Shut the hell up? You don't know everything? What part of this is intellectual? Is your daddy gonna beat up my daddy next because he is bigger?

    And As I have told you before your interpretation of a bad player varies, You fulfill my interpretation of a baddie very adequately.
    Me saying you don't know everything is rather simple, you try and talk for the majority but don't know a damn thing while at the same time spout off that we have no right to talk for others because we don't have facts, you are nothing but a hypocrite.

    Also if me finding people in LFR doing 15k dps and standing in bad stuff as bad players makes me a baddie than so be it but I would rather be what you call a baddie who is doing heroic raids than a hypocrite loud mouth like you.

  4. #364
    Quote Originally Posted by dryankem View Post
    Maybe it's because of; Monks, Pandas, Asian themed, the manta, LFR, lack of 5 mans, the dailies, world bosses, pet battles, BMAH, brawlers guild, operation shield wall, charms, etc.etc.etc...

    How do you know it's only LFR? There have been a lot of new things.
    Who said anything about 1.3mill unsubbing from LFR!?!??

    Go read what Deadman said and u will see why i used that figure... it was fukk all to do with LFR.

  5. #365
    Quote Originally Posted by Endemonadia View Post
    Well FYI i dont care about whose on my side, im all about "syaing it how it is" no matter how painful or upsetting it may be.

    I dont take sides, i discuss issues. I also dont post here for popularity, i post here in the hope that Blizzard take notice and take on board these discussions. I Love Wow, always have and always will. I just hope Wow can get its act together and become great again. Obviously my opinions wont be the same as everyone, but i know theyre the same as a significant and large amount of people.
    Oh My god, we got us a bonafied 'sayin it how it is' guy here! We ain't had one of you round here in... whew... 10 seconds? You is definately a rare cookie while managing to be a 'significant and large amount of people.' at the same time! Dunno how you manage that, but it really works for you.

    All you have is an opinion, and my opinion is that your opinion sucks. You know what they say about opinions and sphincters right?

  6. #366
    Quote Originally Posted by Deja Thoris View Post
    Now you've seen it, did you feel like you experienced it?

    Yep.

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  7. #367
    Quote Originally Posted by Seefer View Post
    Me saying you don't know everything is rather simple, you try and talk for the majority but don't know a damn thing while at the same time spout off that we have no right to talk for others because we don't have facts, you are nothing but a hypocrite.

    Also if me finding people in LFR doing 15k dps and standing in bad stuff as bad players makes me a baddie than so be it but I would rather be what you call a baddie who is doing heroic raids than a hypocrite loud mouth like you.
    My apologies if you misunderstood what I consider to be a baddie, its not people who think they are better than others due to their ability to push 1 1 1 2 4 tab 1 1 2 4 better than other people, its people who think they have a right to dictate what type of player gets to experience the content just so you can feel like you are a special snowflake an deserving of special recognition other than being hit with rotten fruit.

  8. #368
    The only thing I've been able to gleen from this thread is that there are actually people delusional enough to think that giving more options caused subs to drop. That's pretty funny, but what's even funnier is that the LFR haters hate LFR because it took away normal mode raiders from their raid groups. So just stop your seething rage for a second and think about it. People stopped raiding with you and other raiders and prefered running LFR with random strangers... I wonder if it has anything to do with your piss poor attitude, abyssmal social skills and complete inability to think that people play videos games for enjoyment, not to dedicate strict portions of their free time to raiding with nerdraging psychos who flip a shit whenever someone does something wrong.

    If you want to be upset with anything, don't be mad at LFR or others, there's only yourself to blame.
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    You are not the mount you ride. You are not the contents of your bank.
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    You are the all-grinding, all-farming crap of Azeroth.

  9. #369
    LFR is fine if the gear it dropped was equal or relative to the challenge it gives.
    It should drop heroic dungeon level gear, with maybe the last boss in each queue dropping a lower item level epic tier token or something. I think most people's complaint about it is the gear it drops from what I remember when it first came out.

    This causes the traditional raiders to go after that gear in LFR to progress through their own guild raids, either by choice or by demand of the guild leaders. Offering set bonuses in the LFR gear is crap too, set bonuses on tier gear IMO are for progression only because you need every little thing you can get.

    I am all for casual players playing any and all games, the more the merrier, but there is another way to get them to play than how Blizz has done it. LFR is crap and will always be crap.
    Progressing through heroic raids is nearly the same as progressing through challenge mode dungeons, there is almost no reason to do so other than being able to say you did it.

  10. #370
    If you go read my thread 'Why do you choose LFR over Raid Guids' it points out that people are choosing LFR *and all of the problems you get in LFR* rather than joining a Guild Raid, then asks why choose this random roll of the dice in hell to the 'glory days of guild raids'? If its Guild Raids are so awesome sauce how could they possibly loose members to shitty LFR?

    You would find 75% say they just dont have time to raid. Some say they cant stand guild drama. Some say they dont like applications. I have yet to see one person on that thread say it was because they could expereince the content in an easy setting and then quit once they 'see' it.

    If they are there just to 'see' it then how did they get a full set of LFR gear? A near complete set would suggest they run the content over and over again rather than just quitting soon as they see the content. For them this is their end game, this is their progression and they keep slamming away at it every week until the next tier hits so they can slam that content for weeks on end.

  11. #371
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endemonadia View Post
    Who said anything about 1.3mill unsubbing from LFR!?!??

    Go read what Deadman said and u will see why i used that figure... it was fukk all to do with LFR.
    Then I do apologize, I just assumed that's what you meant (shame on my for assuming).

  12. #372
    LOL @ "experiencing" content in LFR......

    That elite trash mob called Garrosh sure was a fight of epic proportion....Took all of 5 mins to down.

    "Gee whiz I felt like I was actually battling a warlord. DAMN, now THAT was the greatest and hardest most challenging thing I have ever experienced......."
    Those words will never come out of the mouth of someone in LFR.......and if it does.....just.....wow

    It sure is an "experience" but so is walking around the shrine 10 times. But don't fool yourselves thinking that you are actually experiencing the fight the way it was intended and meant to be. That's just a joke. I don't care if lfr stays or goes, but don't lie about what you get from it on a forum to try and prove a point. LFR is LFR we all know its garbage wrapped in xmas paper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pallyopness View Post
    LOL @ "experiencing" content in LFR......

    That elite trash mob called Garrosh sure was a fight of epic proportion....Took all of 5 mins to down.

    "Gee whiz I felt like I was actually battling a warlord. DAMN, now THAT was the greatest and hardest most challenging thing I have ever experienced......."
    Those words will never come out of the mouth of someone in LFR.......and if it does.....just.....wow

    It sure is an "experience" but so is walking around the shrine 10 times. But don't fool yourselves thinking that you are actually experiencing the fight the way it was intended and meant to be. That's just a joke. I don't care if lfr stays or goes, but don't lie about what you get from it on a forum to try and prove a point. LFR is LFR we all know its garbage wrapped in xmas paper.
    It is experiencing the content though, even though a far watered down version. I still know what they mean when they talk about the platforms in madness of deathwing, I still know what the maze is or that you can't be brez'd if you stand on the floor at Elegon.

    Does it feel exceptionally hard, no but I don't particularly want that from a video game (and I have nothing against people that like hard content, which is why there should be options). It's frustrating because groups still wipe several times in LFR but according to a few people on the forums you wouldn't think that would even be possible since you can AFK every fight.

    I don't really care if LFR gets removed but since blizzard added it to their game, I'm going to use it and even enjoy it, even though it's clearly not up to your standards.
    Last edited by dryankem; 2013-07-10 at 06:56 PM.

  14. #374
    Quote Originally Posted by Maniac2 View Post
    Now Im asking myself how could I ever play in guild with schedule raid times, I was actually wasting my time back then, raiding 16 hours a week in tbc. Just to experience and kill last boss.

    Now I invest much less time and get the same goal. And still subbed. Its all about TIME, finally I can play the game less and get same goals.

    Thanks to Blizzard for LFD/LFR.
    exactly. i'm happy those dark days are over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadmanWalking View Post
    My apologies if you misunderstood what I consider to be a baddie, its not people who think they are better than others due to their ability to push 1 1 1 2 4 tab 1 1 2 4 better than other people, its people who think they have a right to dictate what type of player gets to experience the content just so you can feel like you are a special snowflake an deserving of special recognition other than being hit with rotten fruit.
    My apologies if you misunderstand what I am saying, as I have said REPEATEDLY, I could care less if they see content what I DO care about is that LFR breeds poor performing players because they can blatantly ignore mechanics, stand in crap, do 15k dps and say they are raiding and then when I try to pug people in because someone had to work or kid was sick or whatever we get those players and they waste our time.

  16. #376
    Quote Originally Posted by pallyopness View Post
    LOL @ "experiencing" content in LFR......

    That elite trash mob called Garrosh sure was a fight of epic proportion....Took all of 5 mins to down.

    "Gee whiz I felt like I was actually battling a warlord. DAMN, now THAT was the greatest and hardest most challenging thing I have ever experienced......."
    Those words will never come out of the mouth of someone in LFR.......and if it does.....just.....wow

    It sure is an "experience" but so is walking around the shrine 10 times. But don't fool yourselves thinking that you are actually experiencing the fight the way it was intended and meant to be. That's just a joke. I don't care if lfr stays or goes, but don't lie about what you get from it on a forum to try and prove a point. LFR is LFR we all know its garbage wrapped in xmas paper.
    And yet they still choose garbage wrapped in Xmas paper over raiding with you. Ask why that is and you will solve all the problems of people choosing garbage wrapped in Xmas paper over raiding in a guild.

  17. #377
    Quote Originally Posted by pallyopness View Post
    LOL @ "experiencing" content in LFR......
    But don't fool yourselves thinking that you are actually experiencing the fight the way it was intended and meant to be. That's just a joke. I don't care if lfr stays or goes, but don't lie about what you get from it on a forum to try and prove a point. LFR is LFR we all know its garbage wrapped in xmas paper.
    Why would anyone lie about LFR experience? I know I enjoy it and thats all that matters.
    I dont really care "what the fight is meant to be", LFR-way is good enough for me.
    Taking one step up to normals implies too much collision with real life and thats not what Im willing to sacrifice.

  18. #378
    Quote Originally Posted by Osmeric View Post

    Listening to players like yourself, attempting to serve that tiny slice of the player population, led to the disaster that is Cataclysm. If you are finding your game experience collapsing because of consequences of your desires that you did not anticipate, all I can say is you deserved it.
    The fault of Cata is of the developers. Stop blaming other players. Blizzard used their data which goes beyond the forums and made poor choices like the removal of max level normal mode dungeons forcing players into heroics, spending too much development time on 1-60 resulting in less end game content at launch to begin with, and overall shorter grinds by request of the casual playerbase which was only made worse by the content acceleration of LFD which even GC had claimed to be have been a problem in Cata causing players to gear too fast and burning out.

    The developers made poor decisions in their attempt to cater to casuals and continue to do such as they try to lump all casuals into one bucket which time and again is proving to not work.
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  19. #379
    Quote Originally Posted by DeadmanWalking View Post
    And yet they still choose garbage wrapped in Xmas paper over raiding with you. Ask why that is and you will solve all the problems of people choosing garbage wrapped in Xmas paper over raiding in a guild.
    Its really sad to see just how much the current Wow playerbase hate raiding guilds...

    Im guessing u were someone who had a hard time playing in a raiding guild... did u get picked on?

  20. #380
    Quote Originally Posted by Endemonadia View Post
    made up numbers? ru for real?

    How exactly are 1.3million players unsubbing in 1 quarter 'made up'?

    Please explain that to me cos im pretty sure Blizzards accountants would like to know how u know its wrong.
    You are operating under a diseased and false assumption that they all quit due to LFR. The majority of those losses were in Asia because a new FTP game came out there and they don't do monthly subscriptions, they pay per hour. No hours spent in game=no subscription. They are an entirely different culture than ours, they don't like paying for time they are sleeping, or in school. They play in public cafe's not in house in pajammas. They don't like paying subscription to get from 1-90 and geared up to catch up with people doing end game. They love grind, if it takes less than a month to get a meaningless bauble they don't like it.

    Of those that were lost in the west they were not all because of LFR. You seem to be constantly arguing that you know why the majority quit and it was because of this function that you personally hate. You should go to Blizzard and get a job as an 8-ball so they can shake you and ask, "Did 1.3 million people quit because of LFR?" and you could pop up with, "Of course, I hate it, so all 1.3 million hate it." or, "I know more people than you do that did." or "My Daddy is bigger than your daddy."

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