Also if me finding people in LFR doing 15k dps and standing in bad stuff as bad players makes me a baddie than so be it but I would rather be what you call a baddie who is doing heroic raids than a hypocrite loud mouth like you.
All you have is an opinion, and my opinion is that your opinion sucks. You know what they say about opinions and sphincters right?
The only thing I've been able to gleen from this thread is that there are actually people delusional enough to think that giving more options caused subs to drop. That's pretty funny, but what's even funnier is that the LFR haters hate LFR because it took away normal mode raiders from their raid groups. So just stop your seething rage for a second and think about it. People stopped raiding with you and other raiders and prefered running LFR with random strangers... I wonder if it has anything to do with your piss poor attitude, abyssmal social skills and complete inability to think that people play videos games for enjoyment, not to dedicate strict portions of their free time to raiding with nerdraging psychos who flip a shit whenever someone does something wrong.
If you want to be upset with anything, don't be mad at LFR or others, there's only yourself to blame.
You are not your role. You are not how much gold you have on your account.
You are not the mount you ride. You are not the contents of your bank.
You are not your epic purples. You are not a special and unique snowflake.
You are the all-grinding, all-farming crap of Azeroth.
LFR is fine if the gear it dropped was equal or relative to the challenge it gives.
It should drop heroic dungeon level gear, with maybe the last boss in each queue dropping a lower item level epic tier token or something. I think most people's complaint about it is the gear it drops from what I remember when it first came out.
This causes the traditional raiders to go after that gear in LFR to progress through their own guild raids, either by choice or by demand of the guild leaders. Offering set bonuses in the LFR gear is crap too, set bonuses on tier gear IMO are for progression only because you need every little thing you can get.
I am all for casual players playing any and all games, the more the merrier, but there is another way to get them to play than how Blizz has done it. LFR is crap and will always be crap.
Progressing through heroic raids is nearly the same as progressing through challenge mode dungeons, there is almost no reason to do so other than being able to say you did it.
If you go read my thread 'Why do you choose LFR over Raid Guids' it points out that people are choosing LFR *and all of the problems you get in LFR* rather than joining a Guild Raid, then asks why choose this random roll of the dice in hell to the 'glory days of guild raids'? If its Guild Raids are so awesome sauce how could they possibly loose members to shitty LFR?
You would find 75% say they just dont have time to raid. Some say they cant stand guild drama. Some say they dont like applications. I have yet to see one person on that thread say it was because they could expereince the content in an easy setting and then quit once they 'see' it.
If they are there just to 'see' it then how did they get a full set of LFR gear? A near complete set would suggest they run the content over and over again rather than just quitting soon as they see the content. For them this is their end game, this is their progression and they keep slamming away at it every week until the next tier hits so they can slam that content for weeks on end.
LOL @ "experiencing" content in LFR......
That elite trash mob called Garrosh sure was a fight of epic proportion....Took all of 5 mins to down.
"Gee whiz I felt like I was actually battling a warlord. DAMN, now THAT was the greatest and hardest most challenging thing I have ever experienced......."
Those words will never come out of the mouth of someone in LFR.......and if it does.....just.....wow
It sure is an "experience" but so is walking around the shrine 10 times. But don't fool yourselves thinking that you are actually experiencing the fight the way it was intended and meant to be. That's just a joke. I don't care if lfr stays or goes, but don't lie about what you get from it on a forum to try and prove a point. LFR is LFR we all know its garbage wrapped in xmas paper.
Does it feel exceptionally hard, no but I don't particularly want that from a video game (and I have nothing against people that like hard content, which is why there should be options). It's frustrating because groups still wipe several times in LFR but according to a few people on the forums you wouldn't think that would even be possible since you can AFK every fight.
I don't really care if LFR gets removed but since blizzard added it to their game, I'm going to use it and even enjoy it, even though it's clearly not up to your standards.
Last edited by dryankem; 2013-07-10 at 06:56 PM.
I dont really care "what the fight is meant to be", LFR-way is good enough for me.
Taking one step up to normals implies too much collision with real life and thats not what Im willing to sacrifice.
The developers made poor decisions in their attempt to cater to casuals and continue to do such as they try to lump all casuals into one bucket which time and again is proving to not work.
Last edited by nekobaka; 2013-07-10 at 07:06 PM.
Of those that were lost in the west they were not all because of LFR. You seem to be constantly arguing that you know why the majority quit and it was because of this function that you personally hate. You should go to Blizzard and get a job as an 8-ball so they can shake you and ask, "Did 1.3 million people quit because of LFR?" and you could pop up with, "Of course, I hate it, so all 1.3 million hate it." or, "I know more people than you do that did." or "My Daddy is bigger than your daddy."