Ooo, another LFR thread. Place bets now on how long it takes to spin out of control!
Glad you're having fun but I'm afraid LFR is sucking some of the fun away from a whole lot of other people :|
Myself included, that's why I quit raiding. Ever since LFR it just doesn't feel like I'm doing all this effort for the kill.
It feels like I'm working on a kill.
Heroic modes were always optional and that's why I kind of wasn't interested in them accept for the challenge.
But most of the "new raid experience" is had in Normal.
Now we have LFR.
Now Normal is an option.
Why don't people have much interest in Heroic? Well now who's going to have much interest in Normal?
Whatever "drive" you had (big or small) it has dwindled (for me a lot and I feel it affects every player to a degree).
It feels like the rewards for raiding Normal (seeing the content and getting tier gear) is taken away.
Now my reward is simply the challenge and recolored tier.....
I just feel unerwhelmed.
I also feel a whole lot of players feel this way even if they don't realize it.
Most people would rather die than think, and most people do. -Bertrand Russell
There is not a flag large enough to cover the shame of killing innocent people. -Howard Zinn
Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them. -George Orwell
-Study our class extensively for optimal performance,
-Study each fight for optimal performance,
-Try to orchestrate our optimal rotation in a stressful progress environment,
-Wipe for hours to kill a single boss for some reason(yaay so fun),
-Try to not fail on memorizing/reaching/assigning keybinds for each of your main characters,
-Work extensively to perform decent while still being able to pay attention to boss mechanics, without all that "friends are depending on my performance to not wipe for another hour" stress,
-Level x number of professions or do other forms of extremely boring stuff(such as dailies) to get more gold to spend on enchants, gems, flasks, pots or gear that gets changed constantly as you get better drops,
-Get into arguements over numbers, such as dps or healing meters,
to experience the content now.
As I said before, this might be easy, monotonous for experienced gamers; but I always have a hard time to explain to them that this whole raiding ritual is no where near "fun" for a casual gamer, or an inexperienced player who has no intention/time to get to your level of experience, it is tiresome and stressful for the majority of the player base. As a gamer(I love this great hobby), I can say that World of Warcraft is way too harder than a single player fantasy game, and I, we, love playing both. But I cannot sacrifice my time and I don't have the interest to adjust to damn video game I pay to play every month, it has to adjust to me, if my views are shared by most of its target audience. Considering LFR, LFD, new talent system etc, I can safely say that they are vastly shared.
We get in, we see the story, we get some improvements on our gear and we get out. All of it takes a very little time, and LFR keeps the thrill of "Just drop that awesome axe already" well, it does a very good job at it. Long story short, LFR is pretty awesome, Flex system also sounds awesome, and I hope they stay that way.
Last edited by madokbro; 2013-07-08 at 04:07 PM.
About gear - never cared about gear, always had just enough to deserve to be invited to raid, often passed it to guild members with less DKP than me. It was always just a tool to get to the end, not a purpose by itself
25 randomers who pushed a button to be teleported in front of a target dummy on legs. If I get together 4 friends and run a challenge mode five man it's more of a raid than LFR ToT.
You can go ahead and define what raiding means to you, and what you want out of raiding, but the fact is that if you're defining it as anything other than "group content with more than five players," you're operating under a personal definition.
The only reason anyone ever takes the opportunity to point out that someone else is not participating in "real raiding" is to scoff at their accomplishments. There's no reason to do that. If you want "real raiding" then do what you think is legitimate raiding, but don't piss on the people who are actually happy with the way they choose to enjoy content and chose to share that perspective.
Convenience would be the one word i would use for why i like LFR.I can do LFR when i want too.I can leave if things are going bad without making some lame ass excuse,but above all else i don't have to kiss some guild's ass and play when they say and how they say.I raided from TBC all the way up to tier 12 and was ready to quit WOW because i was sick of the corrupt cesspool known as "The Raiding Guild".98% of all the negative things i have dealt with in 6 years of WOW have been in guilds not LFD or LFR of course all guilds are most likely not bad but i would rather stick my dick in a bee hive than ever join another guild.
Call LFR what you want but it has it's purpose in WOW there will always be people who hate it and want it gone.Look at flex raids i give no more than a month and posts will be made by some so called hardcore raider about how flex raids are bad and the people who do them are bad and they are harming "real raiding".
You try and you fail,but the only true failure is when you quit trying.