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  1. #221
    Quote Originally Posted by vizzle View Post
    You still haven't given me a single argument why depriving people of their careers because you don't know how to update your virus protection or because you can't stop yourself from visiting malware-ridden porn blogs isn't being a horrible person.
    *virus protection programs aren't bullet proof
    *Elitist Jerks and MMO-Champion aren't porn blogs, both of which have given major malware and viruses to people before

    The more you know!

    *Stars*

  2. #222
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    Quote Originally Posted by GamerLCD View Post
    Without ads the world practically wouldn't exist.
    Maybe a slight bit of hyperbole there? Ads generate revenue for some people. There are some jobs that focus on advertising. Aside from a few movies with Matthew McConaughey, Mad Men, and some small time streamers, it wouldn't affect much.

    Also lets set the record straight about streaming not being a job...because it is. If you make a full time salary streaming then that is your job not to mention the fact its something you love to do and can make a living off of. Telling someone to get a real job like working at McDoanlds is just plain ignorant.
    Sure, for some people it is. Those people generally have sponsor-ships, and a large portion of their income is donation based. Most of them have adverts built directly into their videos. You can fast-forward past them still, but its an intrinsic part of their video. AdBlocker stops the obnoxious strobing monstrosities that generally no one clicks on anyway. I'm in no way against people supporting themselves. If you'd like to work with a company (or companies) and include advertising in your videos, I'd be fine with that.

    I'm not fine with targeted ads that give me tracking cookies and monitor what I do on the internet. I'm not fine with bright, flashing, volume blaring bouts with insanity. I'm not fine with XXX pop-ups from PG sites. I'm not fine with roll-overs, or pop-outs that cover my entire screen.

    Of course if you have a job doing something you love, you should pursue that and do your best to keep it.

    But you're basically telling me that I'm stealing from you because I don't want my browsing experience ruined by obnoxious and abundant ads. I'm not. I may not be providing you with any revenue, but that's nowhere near the same thing. If you want me to financially support what you do, don't make it onerous on me. If I wanted to pay for your content, I would.

    You have the right to make money, and no one is denying that. But you don't have the right to dictate our experiences to do so.

  3. #223
    Quote Originally Posted by breadisfunny View Post
    i have three words for you: MALWARE/VIRUSES/TROJANS. until companies vet their ads better adblock shall remain.
    Maybe if the ads weren't intrusive/annoying it wouldn't be as necessary. Not to mention that ads can be compromised.
    That. They're a right nuisance, and many try to get up in your grills like Jehova's witnesses handing flyers on the street, and it's off-pissing to no end.

  4. #224
    Quote Originally Posted by Coar View Post
    There's a reason no one else gets it, it's because it's stupid, ads are stupid. You're not the 1% of this forum that magically understands something, you're just being greedy and want money.
    I don't think he's being greedy (though he did shamelessly plug a youtube video in his OP, something I despise), he's just placing the needs of advertisers over our desires not to be bombarded with annoyances that detract from the website every time we open a web page.

    (If I have to alt-tab out of my game to close an internet tab because the ad-banner refreshed itself and some announcer started talking to me, I'm not trusting that site ever again... particularly since that website is one I'd already reported bad ads on multiple times.)

  5. #225
    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    Better yet, get a real job and start doing the things you do now as a hobby, like most people do.
    His bias is burning brighter than fucking Ra. There is very little chance he'll change his mind. $5 > Your computer, time, patience and internet experience.

  6. #226
    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    He doesn't need an argument because you don't get to judge people objectively and tell them they are a horrible person. All you can do is think they are for it. You and the others chose a shitty and unstable career. It's the internet. What did you expect? People take shortcuts, people make things easier for themselves. If anything, you should adapt to people using the internet as they wish and try to make money out of the adaptation instead of sitting there in a corner, crying about how all the bad people using AdBlock are depriving you of your well-earned money.


    Better yet, get a real job and start doing the things you do now as a hobby, like most people do.
    I want you to step back and think about this for a moment. I want you to realize how many careers revolve around the Internet, and I want you to say that all of those people chose shitty careers.

    *Programmers
    *Web developers
    *Journalists
    *Photographers
    *UI Specialists

    And etcetera.

    There are a plethora of real careers that hinge around the Internet and its ad-based revenue. Just because you refuse to see it and continue to think that everyone who's on the Internet is wasting their time doesn't mean it isn't there.
    Why am I back here, I don't even play these games anymore

    The problem with the internet is parallel to its greatest achievement: it has given the little man an outlet where he can be heard. Most of the time however, the little man is a little man because he is not worth hearing.

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    I don't need Spammaster's Guide to Making Gold in WoW.
    We're all newbs, some are just more newbier than others.

    Just a burned out hardcore raider turned casual.
    I'm tired. So very tired. Can I just lay my head on your lap and fall asleep?
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  8. #228
    Quote Originally Posted by vizzle View Post
    Exaggeration. I wonder why my computers haven't all exploded yet and all my accounts have been hacked. Huh.

    "It doesn't happen to me. It doesn't ever happen."



    Quote Originally Posted by vizzle View Post
    Why? Tell me why, instead of telling me I am. Because of your exaggerations?

    Because logic dictates that no human being can objectively call anyone anything. This is because the world is divided in viewpoints. (to one, I may be evil, to one I may be good, etc.) Regarding yourself to be above that universal rule is just being arrogant and unnecessarily petulant.



    Quote Originally Posted by vizzle View Post
    Again, they don't do nothing. Ads are reported all of the time.

    Gee, that's a load off of my heart. I guess all these stories about people losing their new computers to ad-infested viruses are just ghost-stories made up for shits and giggles. And I have to believe this from the guy who calls people 'pathetic leeches' for not giving them money for mundane writing jobs for silly internet articles.

  9. #229
    It was adverts on this site that made me install adblock in the first place. They popped up playing music/sound based adverts that you couldn't get rid of, happened too often and in the end I just installed it and forgot about it. adverts on youtube piss me off too so It was a nice bonus when it blocked those.

    I don't care if people lose money, I dont want to see some long ass advert on youtube before I watch the video I'm watching.
    Probably running on a Pentium 4

  10. #230
    1) malware injection
    2) loud, annoying, flashing ads
    3) data limits

    three reasons i use adblockers on all my internet-enabled devices.

  11. #231
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    I understand fully how harmful Adblock can be.

    Why do i use it then?

    Because the vast majority of ads are annoying, intrusive, and not worth the hassle.

    I can deal with an ad on a banner advertising a new flavour of Doritos or something.

    I won't deal, however, with a pop-up that forces me to watch a 30 second + video with no option to mute.

    Those sort of ads make my browsing experience a hell of a lot less enjoyable than it should be, to some point where I just say "Fuck it, this isn't worth the hassle" and leave the site.

    As I mentioned, since installing Adblock and white-listing a handful of sites (YouTube, for example. It would be hypocritical of me to use Adblock on YouTube after years of publicly supporting YouTube as a method of income) my experience as a whole has been much more enjoyable.

    In conclusion, I find my method of white-listing regularly visited sites that don't have infuriatingly annoying ads to be a fairly good way to go about things. Any sites that I fine I will visit regularly and I'm happy supporting will also be white-listed, if that proves to be a bad decision then I will remove them from said list.

    Having ads that aren't intrusive and don't ruin the experience for visitors should be on top of the list of essential goals to meet for anyone looking to monetise their website.
    Last edited by mmoc56a2a40693; 2013-07-11 at 03:53 AM.

  12. #232
    Quote Originally Posted by Akoroth View Post
    His bias is burning brighter than fucking Ra. There is very little chance he'll change his mind. $5 > Your computer, time, patience and internet experience.
    Firstly, my job entails much more than 5 bucks. I work full-time for a decent salary, 40 hours a week, and then another 20 hours part-time, and in my free time I pretty much do what I do as work. And I enjoy my work. Like I've said before, you can continue to think the Internet is all fun and games, maybe because that's the only thing you use the Internet for, Ra and Rexxar, but hey, it's your loss.
    Why am I back here, I don't even play these games anymore

    The problem with the internet is parallel to its greatest achievement: it has given the little man an outlet where he can be heard. Most of the time however, the little man is a little man because he is not worth hearing.

  13. #233
    Quote Originally Posted by breadisfunny View Post
    i have three words for you: MALWARE/VIRUSES/TROJANS. until companies vet their ads better adblock shall remain.
    All good reasons to use it. As far as the websites losing on money, in most cases they only get it if you click on the link. Now I know for myself the only time I ever do that is a rare misclick accident, so they aren't missing out on anything from me. I can also say I wouldn't have started using it if it wasn't for the adds that have their volume jacked all the way up and just start going and wont stop, mmo champ was actually bad with those for awhile and i stopped coming because of it.
    "Privilege is invisible to those who have it."

  14. #234
    Quote Originally Posted by vizzle View Post
    I want you to step back and think about this for a moment. I want you to realize how many careers revolve around the Internet, and I want you to say that all of those people chose shitty careers.

    *Programmers
    *Web developers
    *Journalists
    *Photographers
    *UI Specialists

    And etcetera.

    There are a plethora of real careers that hinge around the Internet and its ad-based revenue. Just because you refuse to see it and continue to think that everyone who's on the Internet is wasting their time doesn't mean it isn't there.

    How many of those listed jobs depend on ad-based revenue? I know the answer. Do you?



    And if they didn't choose shitty careers, they chose a shitty way to collect their income. Who is really going to say "I am glad this person on this site is paying his food by annoying us with dangerous and irritating flashy ads! Joy!"?

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    I always have and always will block ads until the website that hosts the ads is monetarily responsible for any damage my computer receives from viruses/trojans/malware.

    And there are different types of ads. Twitch TV adds are per viewer on the channel but most regular website ads are per click. I'm never clicking on an ad so they don't lose an opportunity cost with me using adblock.

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    The companies don't make money from people watching their adds, they make money from people buying their products that the adds advertise. I won't be buying their shit so why would I watch their advertisements? It's the same reason I have a DVR so I don't have to watch horrible infomercials for products I will never buy.
    These aren't the spoilers you're looking for.

    Move along.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blueobelisk View Post
    Now, Waaldo is prepared to look for this person like Prince Charming testing everyone to see just how bad their psychological disorder is if their foot fits in the glass slipper.

  17. #237
    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    Better yet, get a real job and start doing the things you do now as a hobby, like most people do.
    The vast majority of online careers that generate revenue via ads in this way are very much "real" jobs. Trust me, when a hobby becomes what you do 9-5, relying on it to pay your bills, it ceases to be some fun little pastime that you can get done without putting in any effort while having a blast in the process. If it was that easy, everyone would be doing it.

    Most of the (successful) people I know who work for themselves providing some kind of online service work way, way harder than the average joe working a "real" job. It takes serious dedication and effort to build ad revenue to a level where it's a viable source of income.

    The odd streamer or youtube sensation who hits on a popular zeitgeist to drum up a massive following is the exception, not the rule.

  18. #238
    Quote Originally Posted by vizzle View Post
    Firstly, my job entails much more than 5 bucks. I work full-time for a decent salary, 40 hours a week, and then another 20 hours part-time, and in my free time I pretty much do what I do as work. And I enjoy my work. Like I've said before, you can continue to think the Internet is all fun and games, maybe because that's the only thing you use the Internet for, Ra and Rexxar, but hey, it's your loss.
    Sorry that your job directly breaches my hobbies and entertainment. I'm sure you're very angry that i can tell you to fuck off within 30 seconds of googling "adblock plus"

    But hey, that's my loss. I am losing out on malware injections.


  19. #239
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondercrab View Post
    The vast majority of online careers that generate revenue via ads in this way are very much "real" jobs. Trust me, when a hobby becomes what you do 9-5, relying on it to pay your bills, it ceases to be some fun little pastime that you can get done without putting in any effort while having a blast in the process. If it was that easy, everyone would be doing it.

    Most of the (successful) people I know who work for themselves providing some kind of online service work way, way harder than the average joe working a "real" job. It takes serious dedication and effort to build ad revenue to a level where it's a viable source of income.

    The odd streamer or youtube sensation who hits on a popular zeitgeist to drum up a massive following is the exception, not the rule.

    See how you never really mentioned that they are real jobs? Just that the work put into them makes it seem like they are?


    I acknowledge what you said, but my statement is still viable: It's not a real job.


    Now I'll point a second thing: People paying the bills with non-official work. Yes, it's possible, but get this relevant part: it's unstable, and AdBlock is the application that emphasizes it all the more. However, it was obviously not gonna be a stable source of income, so who's to blame here? The person who knew it was gonna be a rocky ride to collect his income like that, or the person who moves along the line of expectations laid out and there for the grasping by those who use the internet as a source of income with a little logic?


    As long as it isn't official, and salary is not evolved, we are not depriving them of anything they have rightfully earned. They took the risky dive and AdBlock is one of the dangers of it. Deal with it.

  20. #240
    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    How many of those listed jobs depend on ad-based revenue? I know the answer. Do you?
    Tell me who codes and works on the UIs and programs all of the free websites you see. Script-kiddies in their basements? Tell me who covers the news and photographs and reports from all around the world. Hobbyists? Just because they're on the Internet doesn't mean their work is any less credible, reputable or even profitable, and it's disgusting that that's your opinion of it. And yes, I think you're a horrible person, and I can if I want to, as much as you want to use Adblock.


    And if they didn't choose shitty careers, they chose a shitty way to collect their income. Who is really going to say "I am glad this person on this site is paying his food by annoying us with dangerous and irritating flashy ads! Joy!"?
    "Shitty way to collect their income." You mean letting the public enjoy their content for free in hopes that ads will pay them is a shitty way? I didn't know. There it is. I can't wait until the entire Internet gets sub-based and all of you kids start reminiscing the days when shit was free.
    Why am I back here, I don't even play these games anymore

    The problem with the internet is parallel to its greatest achievement: it has given the little man an outlet where he can be heard. Most of the time however, the little man is a little man because he is not worth hearing.

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