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    Why line up Imp Swarm with Dark Soul?

    Why is Dark Soul a better buff for Imp Swarm than the metagem proc?

    Dark Soul doesn't benefit the full duration of Imp Swarm (Imps CANNOT get all 10 casts out per Dark Soul).
    Dark Soul is additive, the metagem proc is multiplicative. Assuming you get the full benefit of both, the metagem proc should be 30% extra Imp Swarms, while Dark Soul is (at 10k Mastery) only ~23% extra damage.

    So, then why is it so important to line it up with Dark Soul? Intuitively, I'd think it's best to just line it up with any major buff (Dark Soul, metagem proc, Lust) to maximize the buff uptime your imps get.

    Obviously the first Imp Swarm gets lined up with just about everything, providing you with the DF to make it through your first Dark Soul and providing some nice Soul Fire procs.
    Later during the fight, you should typically have enough DF to make it through Dark Soul, even spamming Soulfire. You can also save MC procs and burn them almost like their own resource, so you shouldn't need the MC procs from Imp Swarm to maximize Dark Soul.

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    Actually, Imps can and do get all of their casts off during Dark Soul. Also, because when Imp swarm isn't on CD you're still getting passive Imps.

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    Do imps need to be cast after Dark soul to benefit or can they be cast right before? I was unsure as to whether they automatically update with buffs during their duration or not.

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    Do imps need to be cast after Dark soul to benefit or can they be cast right before? I was unsure as to whether they automatically update with buffs during their duration or not.
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    Actually Breath of the Hydra(549ilvl atleast, haven't calculated rest) proc makes imps do more damage than Dark Soul tho BotH can proc while DS is up.

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    i just line it up with haste procs to get more out due to the reduced cd on imp swarm seems to do well

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    Pretty sure they benefit from the fact that you are in Meta during DS which gives them even more damage. could be wrong though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heckahealz View Post
    Pretty sure they benefit from the fact that you are in Meta during DS which gives them even more damage. could be wrong though
    wild imps benefit from mastery ..more mastery =more dmg from wild imps...using DS and imp swarm takes advantage of that since demo's DS is 30% mastery

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    Quote Originally Posted by esatikkane View Post
    Actually Breath of the Hydra(549ilvl atleast, haven't calculated rest) proc makes imps do more damage than Dark Soul tho BotH can proc while DS is up.
    Very interesting, will test this. Have only used them on DS so far.
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