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  1. #681
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sainur View Post
    Instead of creating this shit, how about new character models? I actually feel like they lied to us about character models and aren't even working on them, mark my words. These transmogrification helmets actually need to bought... another step downhill into the grand canyon of shite. Blizzard are shitty little idiots who want nothing but money. I'm not saying they're ugly, but this is just becoming ridiculous.

    Next major step for Blizzard: casual players can now instantly become level 90 with full epic gear for only $19,99!

    Thank god I unsubbed long ago.
    why do you care about new models if you dont play anymore
    i bet when the new models come out youll whine about them too
    just the way lil bitches like you are, enjoy your shit life

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacster View Post
    Pay to win...what? Did blizzard ever mention any type of ultimate goal? I don't think so.

    Keep lying to yourself and believe that stat gear on pet shop will change anything....it's just your personal goal that gets ruined. Just like pet collectors got pissed off, then mount collectors, now dress collectors. As long as they only ruin the goal of one group the others will always say "hey, it's no big deal". Your point is "hey, as long as it's no stat gear it won't matter fpr game balance"...and when we get stat gear they will say "hey, everything else can be bought for real money, so why should stat gear be different...as long as you can get similar gear by raiding."(it's already happening in BMAH, by the way...you just didn't notice).

    The strategy is called "Devide&Conquer" and it isn't exactly new.
    The gaping hole in your argument is that if they were to introduce stat gear for money they would be effectively putting themselves out of business. The BMAH (unless you are buying from gold farmers) keeps you in game spending time to at least make gold to buy the stuff with. Gear for money (even if it's raid quality) would be detrimental to the reasons why people run raids to begin with. Whether you like it or not, people run content to get purples..it's the carrot on the stick..been that way for a long time now. They take away the stick and just give you the gear for money, then the content becomes obsolete quicker. If content becomes trivialized, people will become increasingly bored..and leave in droves. It won't matter if they can buy gear at that point, the game will be boring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacster View Post
    What are you tyring to say? There is nothing in the game that could effect me at all. That you seem to believe there could be something, shows how moronic you are....;-)
    yeah.......lolololol......ok kid, you keep telling yourself that but your words speak volumes.....lool
    dipshit kid, all that you are

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacster View Post
    What are you tyring to say? There is nothing in the game that could effect me at all. That you seem to believe there could be something, shows how moronic you are....;-)

    Care to tell us why you play the game at all? I mean, it doesn't matter, right? :-P
    ok, tell me how it matters to you and please tell me what 'tyring' means

  4. #684
    Quote Originally Posted by Tomana View Post
    I didn't have the heirloom gear in mind. Also, the exp boost is currently envisioned for Asian market, which does not have subs to begin with.
    Yes - they do have subs. Just different model. Still counts as subs. Blizzard could have added this into each pre paid hour card as well as ingame store item. They decided not to do that even tho that would have been a cleaner way to answer the critic that WOW has been getting in Asia. No... they decided to charge players that are already paying pre paid cards extra rather than adjust the experience to more acceptable level for those players.

    Asian market is already paying WAY more than US/EU for the game. And Blizzard decides to charge them more.
    Last edited by Duster505; 2013-07-13 at 05:06 PM.

  5. #685
    Quote Originally Posted by Shawati View Post


    I guess they have to fix the whole Vivendi situation somehow.

    Shame I just resubbed, this is phyiscally disgusting to me. The slippery slope starts here.
    Shouldnt that be the slippery slope started 4 years ago or whenever they released the sparkle pony? Apparently their lube isnt that great, the rate we're going, greens might be on the store in the year 2016!
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  6. #686
    Quote Originally Posted by Cipero View Post
    The gaping hole in your argument is that if they were to introduce stat gear for money they would be effectively putting themselves out of business. The BMAH (unless you are buying from gold farmers) keeps you in game spending time to at least make gold to buy the stuff with. Gear for money (even if it's raid quality) would be detrimental to the reasons why people run raids to begin with. Whether you like it or not, people run content to get purples..it's the carrot on the stick..been that way for a long time now. They take away the stick and just give you the gear for money, then the content becomes obsolete quicker. If content becomes trivialized, people will become increasingly bored..and leave in droves. It won't matter if they can buy gear at that point, the game will be boring.
    Oh, let's say you buy 10 slots in the pet shop...and cause you got less to do then you will cancel your subscription 3 months earlier(untill next patch)...blizz still gains more money and they don't have to deal with your traffic.
    The carrot on the stick won't be gone as long as you don't put the by far best gear on the shop.

    Blizz is calculating if losing players is worth gaining more money by direct transactions. That's why the dead servers have been around for 2-3 years now. Blizz gained more money by paid transfers than they lost due to frustrated players leaving permanently. It's exactly the same thing with the pet shop...
    Last edited by Pacster; 2013-07-13 at 05:10 PM.

  7. #687
    Want to know the reason the Asian market are getting XP Potions? Because a lot of them have limited gametime. China in particular puts a debuff on a character logged on for too long that halves their XP gain in order to convince them to stop playing for a while. The potion would give them the option of rushing the leveling process to make best use of that limited time. Same could be said for the Lesser Charms.

    And even then its still not manditory for them. Do you really think XP Potions will work in the next expansion?

    As for the helmets, who cares? Don't demand new character models in the same breath, that's infinitely more work then a simple helmet. Don't claim the character models will be paid micro transactions when you don't know a damn thing. Its all fearmongering speculation, ironically from people who often either don't play or will threaten to quit the second anything happens. We don't need you, trust me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duster505 View Post
    Asian market is already paying WAY more than US/EU for the game. And Blizzard decides to charge them more.
    Not Blizzard, but the companies they subcontract out to. Blizzard doesn't actually make that much off China due to having to constantly adjust the game for them.

  8. #688
    Quote Originally Posted by russykh View Post
    Shouldnt that be the slippery slope started 4 years ago or whenever they released the sparkle pony? Apparently their lube isnt that great, the rate we're going, greens might be on the store in the year 2016!
    I think you will find alot of arguments 4 years back that this would be happening when the pony was added. How long it would take was not up to the players... but to how much Blizzard was in desperately need of revenues. We are now at the point where they obviously are desperate and things can move on very fast to get the revenues back to acceptable levels now that subs and paid for character services do no longer cover the need of the shareholders for cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by russykh View Post
    Shouldnt that be the slippery slope started 4 years ago or whenever they released the sparkle pony? Apparently their lube isnt that great, the rate we're going, greens might be on the store in the year 2016!
    The so called "slippery slope" started 8 1/2 year ago.

    When people payed more money for getting CE WoW and getting an in game Pet.

    Then just after that we had TGC loot arrive.

    Come to think of it, every single recent MMO is on the same "slippery slope".

    So even at its peak of 12 millions subs WoW had many many forms of pay more money to get cosmetic stuff.

  10. #690
    Quote Originally Posted by russykh View Post
    Shouldnt that be the slippery slope started 4 years ago or whenever they released the sparkle pony? Apparently their lube isnt that great, the rate we're going, greens might be on the store in the year 2016!
    Shh, you're not allowed to remind them of that. It happened in Wrath of the Lich King, the best expansion ever (apperently)!

  11. #691
    Quote Originally Posted by Durandro View Post
    Shh, you're not allowed to remind them of that. It happened in Wrath of the Lich King, the best expansion ever (apperently)!
    Well - it has been down hill with each expansion since it was added. And more mounts and pets have been added. Gives Blizzard less incentive to make good content if they can make same or more moeny by just adding few mounts and pets and now.... helms. And we can be 100% sure that it wont end there. They have a pretty good start for world wide ingame cash shop now already .....

  12. #692
    Quote Originally Posted by Duster505 View Post
    Well - it has been down hill with each expansion since it was added. And more mounts and pets have been added. Gives Blizzard less incentive to make good content if they can make same or more moeny by just adding few mounts and pets and now.... helms. And we can be 100% sure that it wont end there. They have a pretty good start for world wide ingame cash shop now already .....
    Pure speculation, nothing more.

  13. #693
    Quote Originally Posted by Durandro View Post
    Pure speculation, nothing more.
    No - its not speculations. Cash shop is already coming to ASIA next patch and these items we see now in website store will be there as well. And XP potions... and lesser charms of good fortune. That's no speculation. Just facts. What more is gonna be added... THAT would be speculation.
    Last edited by Duster505; 2013-07-13 at 05:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zergal View Post
    In before revamped models on the Pet Store. That would be absolutly hilarious.
    Don't encourage them!

  15. #695
    Not gonna lie, it'd be amazing if that Jewel of the Fire Lord helm would be influenced by the fel fire for warlocks. I could see that looking epic with my set for fel fire. lol

  16. #696
    The helms look awful.

  17. #697
    the frost helm looks awesome. pair it with death knight t11, and you got an awesome lich king style.

  18. #698
    I wonder what these look like on worgens i love the black and red one but i bet it looks messed up on a female worgen like just about every face covering hat.

  19. #699
    Quote Originally Posted by PenguinChan View Post
    Sold character models would be a stab in the back on a lot of people who are still anticipating it
    Yet many of the posts are defending the store, saying that so long as it is just limited to cosmetics (which models would be), then it is fine. I find _this_ to be the slippery-slope more-so than the risk/fear of stat/pay2win items showing up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daagar View Post
    Yet many of the posts are defending the store, saying that so long as it is just limited to cosmetics (which models would be), then it is fine. I find _this_ to be the slippery-slope more-so than the risk/fear of stat/pay2win items showing up.
    Yet the character models were promised way before anything like the new in-game store was announced to the public. It's a concern (Of course), but highly unlikely for a company to do such a thing. I don't know why anyone would get their rocks off for slim speculation on the off chance they may be right, just me probably. I doubt Blizzard is that betraying of a company to 180 on the upgraded character models, and sell them on an item store. If anything like that happens, I could imagine them selling the OLD character models for players who really wish to stay like that -- not the new ones.
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