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  1. #601
    BREAKING NEWS! A company is trying to make money and people do NOT like that! pack your pitchforks and lets protest about this!

  2. #602
    It seems to me that this is the beginning of a F2P transition. The biggest indicator is the ability to access the store in-game. Rift did the same thing and there was a lot of uproar amongst that community. And, despite their insistence that it wasn't the direction they were going, they wound up F2P as well.

    But anyone who thinks that this is setting the tone for P2W is a moron.

  3. #603
    If people would stop buying this stuff it would stop. They just give you what you pay for.

    Sadly the Sheeple are going to buy whatevery they offer...and the majority of people are sheeples :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Idoru View Post
    As often is the case in discussions like this, memory served you wrong. Only one of the initial pets were sold for charity.
    I'm not picking sides or anything, but you didn't really adress his point as to Blizz seeing how well their store worked and realeasing more and more stuff on it.
    They clearly expanded it from their original "intentions" for it. (Or it was their plan all along to continue charging a sub and haveing another finger in the online store pie.)

    I'm fully expecting several things a month put up there soon enough.

    (That bat being obtainable on the store was a slap in the face for me mind you, and the faerie dragon better not be a store mount or I'll be severely dissapointed.)

    It's not a real quality of gaming experience thing, but it is annoying since I don't want to splash out extra cash. I hate to say entitled, but I would feel cheated paying twenty euros plus for a mount they could easily have implemented in game.

    Meh.
    Quote Originally Posted by Boubouille View Post
    I'm just being a smart ass at this point.

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    I just realised that blizz introduced HATS into game. Warcraft fortress anyone ? I wonder when raid bosses will start dropping crates instead of loot. Key cost only 2$ and you have 1% chance for unusual loot !!!!

    Now 3 helmets, tommrow this:
    Last edited by Arrashi; 2013-07-13 at 01:10 PM.

  6. #606
    Let me tell you the main reason why many of are upset.
    Blizzard's store has all the good stuff that is acquired paying actual currency. Since we pay $15 per month, we feel all those mounts, pets, and transmogs should be available via in-game means, regardless of how difficult or lengthy it may be.

  7. #607
    Quote Originally Posted by stripesrus View Post
    Let me tell you the main reason why many of are upset.
    Blizzard's store has all the good stuff that is acquired paying actual currency. Since we pay $15 per month, we feel all those mounts, pets, and transmogs should be available via in-game means, regardless of how difficult or lengthy it may be.
    Adding to that, they are wasting development time on shit like this, while we as subscribers are paying for content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    I just realised that blizz introduced HATS into game. Warcraft fortress anyone ? I wonder when raid bosses will start dropping crates instead of loot. Key cost only 2$ and you have 1% chance for unusual loot !!!!

    Now 3 helmets, tommrow this:
    Ha. That would be really evil - surprised so few have called Valve out on it; I suppose you get immunity of sorts if you are a "fan favorite".

    "Gacha" here we come.

  9. #609
    Everything is cosmetic why complain. If you put out trite garbage the people will respond as such.

  10. #610
    It would have been a nice addition to the achivement system, but yet again poeple will buy this so there is no point to debate if blizzard is right or not , the community has spoken , it is sad.

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    The move troubles me as it did with the celestial horse or other similar store items. But more interesting is that those ventures must have been considered a success for Blizzard to attempt it again in another direction. Meaning they're aware of the backlash and fan discontent this will cause but view it as a loss worth taking for greater gain. This is whats really worrying, the whole notion that this is something that yes the community will complain about but essentially in time will accept and tolerate it. I don't think it's ok at all to do this in a subscription game and it puts the community in poor bargaining position for driving content in their direction when seemingly such a large segment of the fanbase will eat up these vanity items for a pretty significant sum of money.
    I mean for the price of any of the mounts currently in the "pet store" you could purchase The Walking Dead, Faster Than Light, Batman: Arkham City, Hotline Miami, Left 4 dead 2 and Just Cause 2 from steam right now and still have change. It's surreal consumer behaviour to be so invested in WoW that such little developer effort represents such high value to them, its the kind of industry behaviour thats forcing less and less content to be delivered as a base and more in microtransactions and DLC.
    I'm not happy!

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    Well derp, this is the nail in the coffin for me. Time to bury WoW for good. I did plan to return for next expansion, but if this is what Blizzard is turning the game into, i want no part in it.

  13. #613
    I liked the hitching post, till I learned it was limited. Fairly sure when people asked for "TCG-like limited use fun items" they were just asking for the fun items from the TCG. Not something that's limited like the TCG just the fun little items they put out. How silly.

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    I, personally, don't see an issue with the pet store (I rarely buy from it, but I like the idea). The items are all purely cosmetic and give you no gain whatsoever in-game. Just for fun and for show.

    It's simple really: If you don't like the items, don't buy them. And don't think little of those who do.

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    Well well well... now the people that shat on GW2 for having a ingame store with cosmetic items can´t talk trash about that anymore... since this is worse... WoW is a P2P game and Gw2 is B2p.

  16. #616
    Quote Originally Posted by Torched View Post
    Well well well... now the people that shat on GW2 for having a ingame store with cosmetic items can´t talk trash about that anymore... since this is worse... WoW is a P2P game and Gw2 is B2p.
    Is it bad Gw2 has better looking gear to sell than wow?

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  18. #618
    Doesn't mean anything, or that WoW is going F2P with a cash shop any time soon? No. All it means is Blizzard is taking advantage of the fact they can make money off of subs AND people who will buy a bunch of shit from things they put into a cash shop. Almost every other MMO has a cash shop, even though they don't have subs, so they're just following suit.

    It'll be stuff like cosmetic and maybe xp boosts and stuff, nothing more with the success of the game. If you want to jump on the idiot train and go ZOMG NEXY DEY SELL RAID GEARZ! Well, I won't even tackle that because..dumb.
    Last edited by chocobo606; 2013-07-13 at 02:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chocobo606 View Post
    Almost every other MMO has a cash shop, even though they don't have subs, so they're just following suit.
    Then they should also follow suit and drop the subscription fee, but yeah, people won't care and wil buy this anyway so it doesn't matter.
    Last edited by Zodiark Son; 2013-07-13 at 02:13 PM.

  20. #620
    Quote Originally Posted by rogueMatthias View Post
    Since when were cosmetics not a part of the game that we're paying for? Since when were they not included in our subscriptions???

    Getting sick of this argument. Without cosmetics this games just a load of maths and RNG, the cosmetics ARE what makes it a game and creates the world. Infact, now we have transmog, cosmetic appearance is JUST as important to a lot of players as the quality of the armour.

    Speaking as a Rogue, our latest PVP AND PVE armours have been PISS poor for a long time. Ranging from "really lazy and not thought out" to "a fuckin horrendous mess". Last season we had to look like someone had emptied their KFC leftovers over our heads. Blizzard actually designing cooler armour to sell for an additional cost is an insult.

    This is MEANT to be a Pay to Pay model. With Blizzard trying to have a F2P model at the same time, and getting every penny they can from players, is IS a pisstake and disrespectful to those with subscriptions, even if you aren't using that armour.
    Unfortunately for you what people think of the armour is all relative. Since YOU think that the new armour is better than old sets doesn't actually strengthen your argument. I personally think the dreadful and malev sets for rogue are better than those helms. This will be the exact same thing with the mounts. We will say the same things. "Hey those items are rendered nicely, but that guy is a fucking idiot for paying 20$ on that mount". For anyone who has seen alani's mount you would know that that mount is 100% better than anything in the blizzard store.

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