Before starting WoW a year ago, I played LOTRO for five years. Swore I'd never quit for just as long. The game went F2P a few years ago. One by one parts of the game got reworked to be usable via the store only. Other parts saw little bits removed with a silly excuse like 'did not work out as we planned' or 'is too powerful' only to be added to the store a few patches later. Most of this stuff you had a minuscule chance to get ingame if you were up to days of grinding (and all the people I know of who were grinding, were doing so in their sleep via macros and multiboxing). Came a point where our raid leader kindly required us to buy some buffs from the store for a boss challenge we had a hard time with. And ofc, to PvP without store items became near impossible.
So yeah, the minute the store gets anything else than vanity items, I'm outta here also. The gloom and doom might be a few years away, as someone pointed out, but I'm not prepared to pay sub for those few years and slowly get pressured into store upgrades if I want to have a raid spot or level fast enough to get a raid team into a new raid in a new expansion. The two or so years I endured LOTRO in P2W mode, I could have been having much more fun somewhere else. Stupid loyalty and hope has no power against money from the people with deep pockets.
Who are you to say they weren't looking to make large amounts of money? Who doesn't want to become fabulously wealthy doing something they enjoy? Also capitalizing certain words does not make your point any stronger. In fact it makes it less so. Making something BIGGER doesn't make it more correct. You also want to know what helps you keep your successful game studio successful? A crap ton of money in the bank that way if you do make a few flops or mistakes you have the cash in the bank to ride the hard times out. Blizzard isn't just a gang of cool kids making video games because they think it's cool like you seem to want it to be and except for maybe the very very very beginning it never was.
Thus far the only idiots are folks like you who can't make a salient point without speaking in stupid cliches about people being overcome with greed and such. If you don't like it don't buy from it it's as simple as that. They could have a 2 or 20 million subscribers if people didn't buy things from the store they wouldn't keep putting items on it. As things are people have voted with their money: they like being able to buy things from the store. You don't. Oh well. Either play wow and don't' buy things off the store or quit.
2. You tell him to not use cliches while you yourself do just that when you say "Who doesn't want to become fabulously wealthy doing something they enjoy?". There are still morally intact people in the world, people who understand that money is not everything, that it has a tendency foremost to lead people astray not guide them to the correct destination and whatnot. But it's a dying breed.
Ultimately this question is about whether you are used to being the OBJECT of the society, or aiming to become the SUBJECT of the society. Most people in this thread are flat-out objects.
I'm not going to derail this thread arguing economic structures with you. But are you serious? Do you actually believe what you typed. Have you been living under a rock for the last century or are you just trolling?
The fact that so many people in this thread are oblivious to ethics practices regarding buisinesses and corporations is absolutely mind blowing.
For real, those of you who scream about P2W go play some of the Russian MMOs like Allods Online.
I'm sure you'll probably take your words back.
When the TCG loot appeared they said : "Calm down, it's not an itemshop".
When the itemshop appeared they said : "Calm down, they are only selling pets, not mounts or items".
When they sold that retarded horse they said : "Calm down, they are not selling items".
Now with the transmog gear they say "Calm down, they are not selling heroic raid gear".
Oh and they always go to their "slippery slope" argument when someone mentions this.
I don't get all this uproar about entirely cosmetic items in a store, you are at no disadventage due to them, yet everyone goes to the barricades like they just introduced Pay-to-Win to the game.