5.4 Stampede changes

[Tehstool]

Stampede Summons all of your pets to fight your current target for 20 sec. Your pets deal 25% of their normal damage in Arenas and Battlegrounds while summoned this way. 40 yd range. Instant. 5 min cooldown.

This is a huge buff. If the wording is correct, all your pets do 100% of their damage summoned like that anywhere except bgs and arenas.

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But they still only do auto attacks, correct?

[Noctifer616]

Before it was 25% damage + Rabid + basic attack.

Does the 4 times damage increase make it stronger than before the nerf or is it about the same?

[Bullettime]

But they still only do auto attacks, correct?

Probably, if nothing more than to make the programmer's life easier.

This should put it equal, if not a little more, than where Stampede was prior to the nerf.

[Deleted]

And roughly how much of your dps did the pre nerfed Stampede do?

[Noctifer616]

Probably, if nothing more than to make the programmer's life easier.

The ability spam was probably the reason many 25 man raiders were experiencing performance issues with Stampede. It's better this way.

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Yep correct, 100% damage in pve now, this is pretty sweet. Let's hope stampede doesn't create lag in the new tier, coz lol -.-

[Osinin]

Yes, that will be the next interesting part, do they just auto attack?

Lore said something in his latest post about utility and stampede which suggested they wouldn't bring their buffs with them so I assume that is out. (Which to be honest doesn't bother me).

Just auto attacking is a buff, also casting basic attack would be a bigger buff.

[Deleted]

The ability spam was probably the reason many 25 man raiders were experiencing performance issues with Stampede. It's better this way.

It wasn't related to stampede, it was related due to bad coding from both recount and skada. Skada and recount ping data between wow clients, as soon as one person had an out of date version and they popped stampede it bugged out for everyone, causing a memory overload. A similar thing happens on megaera during diffusion healing.

[bendak]

Sweet! I'm assuming it will still just be auto attacks. Still, this puts PVE stampede back to how it was at the very start. It used to do 50% damage for the additional pets but also could cast bite/claw/smack. Now its 100% damage without basic attacks, so roughly the same. Much nicer now...but it would be downright epic if they could still cast basics.

[Deleted]

stampede was always 25% (if i remember correctly). we lost about 50% of its damage when they removed basic attacks, and now they are buffing it by 400%. So it will roughly do double the damage of our prenerf stampede, something between 2.5-3% damage boost

[furcouch514]

world pvp stampede anyone? swoooosh

[zenyatta]

Stampede Summons all of your pets to fight your current target for 20 sec. Your pets deal 25% of their normal damage in Arenas and Battlegrounds while summoned this way. 40 yd range. Instant. 5 min cooldown.

This is a huge buff. If the wording is correct, all your pets do 100% of their damage summoned like that anywhere except bgs and arenas.

WoWHead has it as 125%, is that a typo or poor info or what's going on there? That can't be accurate.

No, 175% -

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Stampede: Summons all of your pets to fight your current target for 20 sec. Your pets deal 175% of their normal damage in Arenas and Battlegrounds while summoned this way.

That can't be right at all o_O

[mob1lejunkie]

world pvp stampede anyone? swoooosh

I noticed this as well, inb4 wpvp heroes qq

[Tehstool]

WoWHead has it as 125%, is that a typo or poor info or what's going on there? That can't be accurate.

No, 175% -

That can't be right at all o_O

Yeah, that's not right. Even before the nerf they never did anything close to 100%.

[hareu]

wish it was 100% with special attacks, would be pretty good. mega burst.

[Spiralphoenix]

Wowhead has like always shown 175%, for whatever reason. Glad to see they're finally balancing it separately.

[Mirishka]

Yeah, that's not right. Even before the nerf they never did anything close to 100%.

Wrong. Stampede was originally full pet damage on a 10min cooldown and a shorter duration. It was a massive dps increase (at one point around 80% for BM) and when hunters complained about the cooldown/duration, it convinced Blizz to decrease the cooldown and increase its duration, at the cost of the damage dealt by stampeding pets.

[Tehstool]

Wrong. Stampede was originally full pet damage on a 10min cooldown and a shorter duration. It was a massive dps increase (at one point around 80% for BM) and when hunters complained about the cooldown/duration, it convinced Blizz to decrease the cooldown and increase its duration, at the cost of the damage dealt by stampeding pets.

I was talking about it actually being used in raids, not the MoP beta.

[khalamo]

According to some previous math stampede lost 60% of its damage due to recent nerf.

So lets say old stampede (5.2) dealt 100% dmg. After nerf its 40%, and in 5.4 its gonna be 160%. So thats like 60% dmg increase compared to our old stampede.