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    Monk PvP Race for heal

    Hi.

    I have a question

    Who is better race for monk mw/ww in pvp rgb/arena

    Human or Night Elf who is better?

    BTW: sorry for my language, I did not know which forum to write

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    Human. Extra dps trinket is good.

    Shadow meld isn't very useful in arenas and rbgs, it's mostly for when you wanna gank someone or something. In RBGs, if you guard a flag, it's actually more useful if the enemy sees the flag is not undefended than if it thinks it's free to take and commits resources that end up actually beating you. In RBGs fear can be more important than deception.
    Last edited by Day Dreamer; 2013-07-14 at 09:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day Dreamer View Post
    Human. Extra dps trinket is good.

    Shadow meld isn't very useful in arenas and rbgs, it's mostly for when you wanna gank someone or something. In RBGs, if you guard a flag, it's actually more useful if the enemy sees the flag is not undefended than if it thinks it's free to take and commits resources that end up actually beating you.
    Shadowmeld is not required to rgb?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalteraq View Post
    Shadowmeld is not required to rgb?
    To do what with it ?! Gank a flag from stragglers coming alone ?! No one attacks flags alone unless they're rogue who can Sap and Blind if you trinket Sap.
    Last edited by Day Dreamer; 2013-07-14 at 09:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day Dreamer View Post
    To do what with it ?! Gank a flag from stragglers coming alone ?!
    what are you prefer? human/ne?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalteraq View Post
    what are you prefer? human/ne?
    Human, imo, if you're not interested in looks.

    Btw, if you guard flags stand some distance away from it. As I said above, rogues can cap it if they Sap you and then Blind immediately if you trinket, but if you stand some distance away you have time to trinket the sap and pop a SEF clone on him to distract him.
    Last edited by Day Dreamer; 2013-07-14 at 09:42 PM.

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    Pandaren Monk Ealyssa's Avatar
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    Human

    free spirit, free trinket, full of win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ealyssa View Post
    Human

    free spirit, free trinket, full of win.
    to take Human? is good race for heal and dps?

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    For some reason all MW monks I see are human, while all disc priests I see are nelf. Must be seriously because MW monks scale really well with a second PvE trinket rather than a PvP trinket. They're also somewhat better at preventing getting CCed than disc priests.

    But yeah, I'm enjoying my double PvE trinkets on my MW monk ;P

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    I go Undead on my monk, I have 3 ways out of getting feared...and I still am stuck in fear sometimes>.<
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    to take the alliance human? in pvp rgb/arena?
    Last edited by Kalteraq; 2013-07-15 at 07:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalteraq View Post
    to take the alliance human? in pvp rgb/arena?
    If my monk was alliance, and I was playing MW, I would go night elf. Let me explain why.

    The human racial that gives you a free trinket is great, but it won't provide you with anything gamebreaking. Monks have very little trouble keeping people alive when they are allowed to heal. What really messes with them is their susceptibility to cc - that is to say that monks innately have fewer 'outs' than other healers. Resto druids can preshift poly, priests have fear ward and invis, paladins have bubbles and aura mastery, shamans have tremor, grounding and shear.

    An extra healing trinket is only useful if you are able to heal your target. As a nightelf not only do you have an additional 2% chance to be 'missed' by offensive spells and abilities, but shadowmeld is incredibly powerful.

    Someone above said that it is only useful for 'ganking'. This is not true. Shadowmeld still operates on the same mechanics as the old rogue vanish. This means that if you use shadowmeld at the same time as an ability hits you, or slightly before, the ability will not hit. You are also dropped from your enemies' focus bar.

    In arena the possibilities are endless. When my druid was a nelf I'd save it for when I had to go offensive, melding counterspells, fears, blinds, scattershots. You see an enemy casting polymorph or fear on you? shadowmeld. You need to get out of combat to drink? Shadowmeld.

    Google something like 'how to use shadowmeld in pvp' for more options. Don't listen to the subpar and uninformed advice given so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day Dreamer View Post
    Human, imo, if you're not interested in looks.
    I still don't understand why people hate on the human models. The male models are fine and the female models are the only good looking female race in the game. The rest of them are ugly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Cailan Ebonheart View Post
    I still don't understand why people hate on the human models. The male models are fine and the female models are the only good looking female race in the game. The rest of them are ugly.
    Draenei and nelfs are sexy. dat draenei ass!

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    NELF racials aren't that good for a healer/DPS, I'd go human. It's not all about the main racial, humans also get more damage for 1h swords which you'll be using as a WW. NELFs get 1% dodge, which isn't that good if you aren't a tank. Also, I personally like the human models better and you have the bonus of not playing an Elf...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sengura View Post
    NELF racials aren't that good for a healer/DPS,
    Not true as far as healers go.

    For healers the alliance races are Human > NE > rest
    Horde = Undead > BE > rest

    Clutch shadowmeld to avoid a CC or spell from landing is much more useful than people imagine. Undead and BE benefits are obvious, of course.

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    Shadowmeld is amazing.
    If you are mainly going to DPS I'd go with Human because of the double dps trinket otherwise NE for healer.

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