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    I'm surprised how many people seem to not have even heard of Swaziland. I mean I don't know much about it, but I had certainly heard of it.

    Also, though they may not keep patents online, it's quite likely they do keep them in a computerized database for logistical purposes. And just for those curious, it's possible to copyright creative works in Swaziland and have them protected in 160+ other member nations with a single form. Realistically this probably means that Blizzard could have filed with any of those nations and chose to have it protected in any of the others, or to protect it in just the filing nation, or in just a small selection of the nations.

    Basically, we'd need to look through all possible countries (which is around 196, but it depends on the source - it's above 190 in almost all cases). It's probably easier to look through countries that store copyrights online for obvious reasons. I'm not sure if you'd be able to get much out of offices that don't have online copyright records due to obvious reasons.

    Who we really want to be looking at are their legal reps. You won't get anything out of them directly of course, but they may have left a paper trail to follow. It's unlikely, but still, might be worth a shot.

    Also, amusingly, the patent after the Hearthstone one (i.e. #86003647) is for something called B.I.L.F.
    Blizzard, I'd like to... you know the rest

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    1) That is called the alpha beta, Then the friends and family (with an NDA)

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    It used to go F&F Alpha, then invite only Beta.
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  2. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by Synthaxx View Post
    Also, amusingly, the patent after the Hearthstone one (i.e. #86003647) is for something called B.I.L.F.
    Blizzard, I'd like to... you know the rest
    Wait, where is this?
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    New WoW Expansion - Return to Swalizend ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soratrox View Post
    Wait, where is this?
    I second this question. There is no trademark after Hearthstone as far as I can see?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Anyone else have to Google Swaziland to figure out where the hell it is?
    I didnt have to...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo Risin View Post
    I second this question. There is no trademark after Hearthstone as far as I can see?
    He probably just meant the next trademark in the list, not the next one from Blizzard.

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    I could be wrong but I do not think the trademark in Swaziland has anything to do with Blizzard as there is an entry under the Prosecution History which states "new application entered in TRAM" on 10/07/13. It looks to me that Blizzard have filed for the trademark and then found out someone else has registered it in Swaziland, although I could be completely wrong.

    edit Looking through Cata's filling there are a number of entries under the prosecution history so it is probably nothing.
    Last edited by Pann; 2013-07-16 at 07:34 AM.

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    Sneaky mother fuckers! They must all play rogues! NEWS JUST IN - rogue overhaul next patch because of how sneaky blizzard are! =p

  9. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by Synthaxx View Post
    Actually, it's just Alpha, not Alpha Beta. Alpha and Beta are 2 separate stages
    It used to go F&F Alpha, then invite only Beta.
    Yeah that was a typo on the beta part :P

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    Maybe the expansion is so bad that they want it too be top secret. Or the other way araund. Some1 will probaly dig something very secret like soon now that we know this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Anyone else have to Google Swaziland to figure out where the hell it is?
    Common knowledge, that it's a contry in Africa..

    Atleast common knowledge in countries, where you are taught a minimum of geography...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    I could be wrong but I do not think the trademark in Swaziland has anything to do with Blizzard as there is an entry under the Prosecution History which states "new application entered in TRAM" on 10/07/13. It looks to me that Blizzard have filed for the trademark and then found out someone else has registered it in Swaziland, although I could be completely wrong.

    edit Looking through Cata's filling there are a number of entries under the prosecution history so it is probably nothing.
    Right, TRAM is just what the US Trademark Office calls the database used by its examiners. Nothing special.

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    Someone file a shit load of possible expac patent names so we can scare blizz into revealing it and patenting it LOL

    Also i knew where swaziland was as soon as i saw the name its in africa

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    Quote Originally Posted by ro9ue View Post
    So what I want to know is if the US trademark office had any knowledge of it when it was registered in a foreign country in order to give priority. If someone registered Hearthstone in the US during that period between the Swaziland registration and the US registration, what happens?
    Blizzard wins due to its earlier filing date in Swaziland. Because both US and Swaziland are parties to the Paris Convention Treaty, Blizzard's filing in Swaziland triggers a 6-month window in which it can then file in the US and retain the Swaziland filing date as its priority date. So anyone filing after that date (Feb. 28) would be junior to Blizzard's Hearthstone mark.

    The Hearthstone mark does not even need to register as an actual trademark in Swaziland for the US application to get the Swaziland date, filing an application in Swaziland is enough.

    Considering the list of countries that are parties to the Paris Convention (http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/Show...en&treaty_id=2), it'd be a tall order to actually find any foreign filings by Blizzard if they use some of the smaller countries on the list.

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    This is pretty interesting. Good post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Anyone else have to Google Swaziland to figure out where the hell it is?
    Nope, we have a pretty good educational system here in Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PuppetShowJustice View Post


    Apparently you're pretty close.

    Also I love their motto as listed on Wikipedia.



    They sound pretty serious about protecting that trademark information.
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  18. #98
    And this, my son, was the day when mmochamp decided to invade Swazilandia.

  19. #99
    Aww..I was looking forward to the expansion name leaking within the next month and seeing the hype about it rise etc. I can't see how it's a bad thing for Blizzard when the expansion name leaks, it gets people talking about it which surely that's what they want?

  20. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by brothernads View Post
    Blizzard wins due to its earlier filing date in Swaziland...
    Gotcha, thanks for the info.

    Now quick someone go through all these country trademark filing offices and find one from Blizzard!
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