Originally Posted by
Embermoon
Are you related to my wife? She also thinks (wrongly) that she can read my mind. In actuality, you have no idea of how many of the posts I've read in this thread. Please don't presume to think you do, based on the content of my post. I think you either didn't read my post carefully enough, or else are making some assumptions that aren't true. (i.e., the "good posters" who offer solutions aren't the one's I was addressing)
If you re-read my post, you'll see that I'm questioning whether this is really a problem. i.e., how often are people actually wiping, due to too many healers going dps? I personally have yet, to see it. Even so, I'm saying "okay, let's assume this is happening with regularity - then what?" An auto-kick isn't the answer, and "the problem," in that case isn't dual-spec, nor the lack of an auto-kick mechanism; it would be the LFR queueing system, in and of itself, creating both the opportunity and motive for dps hybrids to queue as heals.
Perhaps you might want to go back and re-read through the thread, because many of the posters are maligning the hybrid players on a moral basis, instead of recognizing that those hybrid players are simply playing the game, as it's designed. One guy even intimated that he'd give players a swift kick in the ass. My response to that type of venom is disdain, disgust, and dismissal. I have zero respect for that tripe.
And why would you assume that the 4 healers are collectively the Forrest Gumps of raiding? "MAMA SAID THESE WUH MY RAIDING BOOTS - THEY'D TAKE ME ENNYWHEAH!" Really, you're creating a premise, at the far-end extreme of derpness, just to make an argument in support of your position. That's straw-man arguing.
You're right, in that my off-the-cuff solution suggestion is, indeed, based upon the premise that 515 ilvl . But, just how many 515-geared folks are unenchanted, ungemmed, and not reforged? Because, with the lack of objective data, I have to draw on my own experience, where even being on a backwater server, with a very small talent pool, I don't see 515-geared folks walking around without gems, enchants, and being reforged.
Regardless, and to your point, I could just as easily make the argument that all six of the ilvl 480 (490?) healer-specced healers can come into the LFR, and all be the picture of derp that you painted. You aren't providing evidence that a system like the one I proposed wouldn't be better than the queueing system we have now.
I addressed this point, above, but would like to reiterate that I respect you coming to their defense, as a protective mama bear, despite getting your fur ruffled unnecessarily. If I offered some honey jars, or marmalade sandwiches, as recompense, could we just bear hug it out?
P.S. Love your sig artwork.
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Well, you're a shaman. Beyond just being kicked, you should be put in the stocks, pelted with rotten vegetables, and then tarred and feathered. Then made to watch every episode ever of Oprah, back-to-back.
Maybe then you'll learn your role.
In all seriousness, the LFR queueing system is the issue. It's needlessly slow, because there isn't a built-in "skill-check" mechanism, which could speed the process up, thus negating the motivation for people to (ab)use it.