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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Venziir View Post
    The Sentinels is just the name of their army. The warrior-priestesses are the Priesthood of the Moon, who are kinda like Paladins, but not quite. The closest thing to Paladins that N. Elves have are Wardens. They are the police of the Night Elves, they serve out justice and have a strong codex - they just use stealth and shadows and poison as opposed to the Light.
    Priestess of the Moon pretty much was the equivalent of a night elf paladin. A holy magic user trained in combat, and Priestess of the Moon are trained to use melee and ranged weapons. That concept was kind of dropped in WoW though, as they are pretty much just regular priests now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grubjuice View Post
    could there be sha-tainted pandaren warlocks?
    The Sha are remnants of the Old Gods, warlocks use Fel and Demon magics from the Nether - two different things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandrox View Post
    Priestess of the Moon pretty much was the equivalent of a night elf paladin. A holy magic user trained in combat, and Priestess of the Moon are trained to use melee and ranged weapons. That concept was kind of dropped in WoW though, as they are pretty much just regular priests now.
    Holy magic yes, but not Holy Light as in the faith of the Humans or Dwarves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venziir View Post
    No ties to the "earth"? Uhm.... Their main "deity" is the Earthmother.
    Alright, I just remembered tauren quotes from WC3... They do mention the Earthmother. However, as far as I know, this Earthmother isn't exactly "druidic"; more like spiritual, tribal as I said earlier. Feels like the whole "from dust we came and to dust we return" thing, you know? Praising spirits, shamanism, dancing in the rain around a fire, revering ancestors' spirits, doing rituals for a good crop this year, great hunts and hunters,etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venziir View Post
    Holy magic yes, but not Holy Light as in the faith of the Humans or Dwarves.
    Not all paladins use the same type of holy magic, but the concept is the same. Blood Elves stole their power from the Naaru, and then get it form the Sunwell. Dranei/Dwarves/Humans use the Light, Taurens use the sun or something stupid. Night Elves just use Elune and the moon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandrox View Post
    Not all paladins use the same type of holy magic, but the concept is the same. Blood Elves stole their power from the Naaru, and then get it form the Sunwell. Dranei/Dwarves/Humans use the Light, Taurens use the sun or something stupid. Night Elves just use Elune and the moon.
    Tauren Sunwalkers and Seers (paladins and priests) does indeed use the sun, however the refer to it as the Holy Light or just the Light (just click any paladin or priest trainer that's a tauren in game). The concept of Holy Magic is indeed the same, but the difference is cultural as something a troll for example, regards as holy, a night elf or human might regard as heretical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArMeD_SuRvIvOr View Post
    Alright, I just remembered tauren quotes from WC3... They do mention the Earthmother. However, as far as I know, this Earthmother isn't exactly "druidic"; more like spiritual, tribal as I said earlier. Feels like the whole "from dust we came and to dust we return" thing, you know? Praising spirits, shamanism, dancing in the rain around a fire, revering ancestors' spirits, doing rituals for a good crop this year, great hunts and hunters,etc.
    Indeed, however in case of the Tauren, the shamans and druids are very close connected. The Night Elves even comments on the fact that the Horde races shamanism isn't that different from the ideas of druidism - there used to be two npc's outside of Stonetalon, one a druid and one a shaman and they'd mention how related their different ideas in truth were.

    And druids are very tribal, it's just that the Night Elf druids are a bit more.... Urbanized and imperialised really, due to the culture of the Night Elf society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grubjuice View Post
    could there be sha-tainted pandaren warlocks?
    Yes, but they would have to be inable to use demons then. Or have their demons instead be sha remnants. Either way, too much work to ever see happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venziir View Post
    Tauren Sunwalkers and Seers (paladins and priests) does indeed use the sun, however the refer to it as the Holy Light or just the Light (just click any paladin or priest trainer that's a tauren in game). The concept of Holy Magic is indeed the same, but the difference is cultural as something a troll for example, regards as holy, a night elf or human might regard as heretical.

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    Indeed, however in case of the Tauren, the shamans and druids are very close connected. The Night Elves even comments on the fact that the Horde races shamanism isn't that different from the ideas of druidism - there used to be two npc's outside of Stonetalon, one a druid and one a shaman and they'd mention how related their different ideas in truth were.

    And druids are very tribal, it's just that the Night Elf druids are a bit more.... Urbanized and imperialised really, due to the culture of the Night Elf society.

    That sheds some light on the whole topic although why, then, would a tauren be a druid when shamanism is almost the same thing? Just because you can turn into animals? Shamans already do that!
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  8. #68
    I think a Troll Paladin, Tauren Warlock, or Goblin Druid are the least likely combinations possible.

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    dwarf rogue, dwarfs are like the complete opposite of what a rogue should be like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArMeD_SuRvIvOr View Post
    That sheds some light on the whole topic although why, then, would a tauren be a druid when shamanism is almost the same thing? Just because you can turn into animals? Shamans already do that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by silmarilen View Post
    dwarf rogue, dwarfs are like the complete opposite of what a rogue should be like.
    Depends, the Dark Iron are smaller, craftier and much more sneaky and sinister than your regular Bronzebeard, beergut dwarf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elementalkin View Post
    I think a Troll Paladin, Tauren Warlock, or Goblin Druid are the least likely combinations possible.
    Troll Paladins are in fact *very* likely. They'd be given the same treatment as the Tauren Paladin of course, and probably be called something like Loa-Zealot or whatever, but the idea of a Loa worshipping warrior, using the blinding powers of the Loa along with the healing essence of another Loa, while wearing heavy armor isn't that far out - besides there are some Zandalari "Paladins" in ToT already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feio View Post
    Undead paladins. Nightelf mages (imo they shouldn't have added them as nightelfs banished any form of magic from their society) and warlocks.
    In your opinion, but fact is: Night Elves = High Elves, essentially, just not as rich or "highborne."

    There were Night/High Elf mages thousands of years ago. You are right on it being banned, but not on it being implausible.

    Undead Paladins, could be something, based on Undead Holy priests. Read up about the priests... they are basically slowly reviving themselves, according to Blizzard lore. I think it was on the Undead Priest creation page or something, but basically, Undead priests start to smell how they are rotting flesh etc etc and start to feel more pain and what-not. It's an interesting read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltrusDisc View Post
    In your opinion, but fact is: Night Elves = High Elves, essentially, just not as rich or "highborne."

    There were Night/High Elf mages thousands of years ago. You are right on it being banned, but not on it being implausible.

    Undead Paladins, could be something, based on Undead Holy priests. Read up about the priests... they are basically slowly reviving themselves, according to Blizzard lore. I think it was on the Undead Priest creation page or something, but basically, Undead priests start to smell how they are rotting flesh etc etc and start to feel more pain and what-not. It's an interesting read.
    Forsaken Paladins could.... Kinda... Work. Very strong-willed, martyr-minded warriors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venziir View Post
    Troll Paladins are in fact *very* likely. They'd be given the same treatment as the Tauren Paladin of course, and probably be called something like Loa-Zealot or whatever, but the idea of a Loa worshipping warrior, using the blinding powers of the Loa along with the healing essence of another Loa, while wearing heavy armor isn't that far out - besides there are some Zandalari "Paladins" in ToT already.
    Well how about that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elementalkin View Post
    Well how about that!
    And just to prove that I'm not pulling stuff out of my ass, here's the guy in question, the Zandalari Prelate; http://www.wowhead.com/npc=69927#abilities

    "And of course there are the "Zandalari Freethinkers", which were mentioned in vanilla;
    Your beliefs are alien to us, heathen. Ancient Zandalar were once branded as heretics. This was when the Gurubashi Empire was strong. Heathens dared to challenge the priest of Hakkar. Heathens then were hunted and killed as vermin. Those heathens never wavered in their fight against the Blood God. We honor the price they paid. They are the freethinkers.


    You are a heathen. Heathens have a place in the tribe. Heathens are freethinkers of Zandalar. Freethinkers do not fear oppression. Freethinkers die for what they believe in. We know you would die for what you believe in. This earns our acknowledgement. This earns you a chance to prove yourself further."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venziir View Post
    And just to prove that I'm not pulling stuff out of my ass, here's the guy in question, the Zandalari Prelate; http://www.wowhead.com/npc=69927#abilities
    No need, I just had to look it up for myself! Apparently this was also hinted at prior by an old armor set.

  16. #76
    orc paladin should never happen

  17. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by Kralljin View Post
    No Gilnean was trained to be a Paladin, then they sealed themselves off after the 2nd war and were obviously unable to learn Pally stuff from someone.


    In my view: Tauren Rogue, even a combination like Troll Paladin seems likely, because these Zandalar guys in ToT seem to have an odd connection to Paladin Spells, like:

    http://www.wowhead.com/spell=139212
    http://www.wowhead.com/spell=139223

    IF Trolls can become Paladins, they are the 1st Race in WoW that is able to choose any class.
    ToT Trolls are not the same as Darkspear Trolls, and that's the main reason why troll paladins are iffy. Perhaps if we used the ToT trolls' knowledge it would be possible, but without it, Troll paladins make no sense.

    Edit: I read someone else's post who said they're likely if they worship something other than the Light (such as how Tauren paladins are really Sunwalkers). If so, then I suppose they are very much possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IHateJayWilson View Post
    orc paladin should never happen
    Well, we have Eitrigg, who's basically a Crusader of the Argent Dawn/Crusade, and there were a lot of orc members of the Crusade up in Northrend, it's very likely that they were affected by the beleifs of the human and dwarf members. Oh and there's the fact that the orc shamans on Draenor drank Naaru-infused holy water for years.

    Besides, the Tauren and Blood Elves could teach them.... Think of how awesome the wolf mount would look hah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elementalkin View Post
    No need, I just had to look it up for myself! Apparently this was also hinted at prior by an old armor set.
    Indeed, the Freethinker armor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lopk View Post
    ToT Trolls are not the same as Darkspear Trolls, and that's the main reason why troll paladins are iffy. Perhaps if we used the ToT trolls' knowledge it would be possible, but without it, Troll paladins make no sense.
    Indeed they are not - however! We've now been fighting, studying and killing Zandalari trolls for a good while, not to mention they taught us about the Freethinkers back in Vanilla, and Vol'jin isn't an idiot, it's likely they he has learned a thing or two...
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    Tauren rogues are the true masters of stealth. That's why you never see them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venziir View Post
    The specific teachings of Cenarius, his ideas and philosophies, acces to the Emerald Dream.
    Still feels "crammed down our throats" from WC3 to WoW (pulled out of their asses, that is). They were barely druidic in WC3, then in WoW they are all over druidism.
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