Lots of reasons, as previously mentioned. Most of the key figures are or were Alliance heroes, not to mention the better (to me at least) questing experience on Alliance side. Except Venomspite, those quests were pretty fun. But overall I think Alliance questing was WAY better, like, for example, the Worgen storyline with the trappers in Grizzly Hills.
Cataclysm as an expansion can't be judged on 85-90 alone, ill agree that was pretty neutral because as far as i'm aware the horde didn't get extra Thrall quests in 85-90 that the alliance did not get.
However the 1-60 leveling zones, the horde get far better zones (Silverpine, Stonetalon, Hillsbrad, WPL) with much better storylines which usually result in kicking the alliance all the way out of the zone whereas the alliance versions (Ashenvale) are pretty poor and result in a draw at best or facing a generic threat/overdone in comic relief (Dun Morogh, Westfall). In fact in 1-60 I don't remember a single zone of Alliance vs Horde where the Alliance came out victorious
No. The Alliance should get reparation and satisfaction for all the atrocities the Horde did in Alliance territories. Yes THE HORDE. Garrosh was not alone. If that was the real world, Varian would have asked that all Horde troops leave Ashenvale and parts of Stonetalon and a tribute of gold or ressources so that the Horde no longer poses a threat. The Morshan Remparts would owned by the Alliance and Splinter Tree Outpost would be destroyed and manned by Allied troops. Zoramgar would have been destroyed.
But no, we get this nonsense about "balance". Yeah... It's like saying humanity was stronger during the Cold War. Well, it's only the last item in a long list of ethical bogus and weird politics WoW had since WotLK...
"Je vous répondrai par la bouche de mes canons!"
It didn't exactly concern me back then, it was more of a "what?" moment than anything, but it was very much true. Both factions got the same tourguide/breadcrumb bits through the zone onto other things, while the Horde got a glorious homecoming, a reason to explore the big crystal mountain, and other goodies that explained the actual point of the zone and its place in the BC storyline.
If that'd been all it was, no worries.
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Please explain to me how MoP is obviously Horde. I mean really. You guys keep saying that, but you ignore the fact that Alliance intro to Pandaria is cooler, Anduin is arguably the most important figure this time around, after Garrosh, you get to raid our capital city for a second time, (even if nothing really comes of it), you have a freaking uber-powerful mage who like, goes berserker mode with Dal...don't get me wrong, Horde got plenty of love in MoP, but don't be a fool and say it's Horde-centric when it's not.
Dude, Cata was horde-centric because the Horde steamrolled over territories in it. They were in the glory days of their finely tuned war machine. Playing through Silverpine, stonetalon, and the one zone what with all the plague, you decimated everything. Take no prisoners, lamenation of their women, yadda yadda. I had to play through Silverpine on my Orc before I knew what happened to the Worgen storyline.
My one and only problem with Thrall is that all during Cata, the Alliance players who called foul on him being EVERYWHERE were told that it was okay, he was a neutral lore figure like Malfurion or Tirion (Who has had little to no connection with the Alliance for years, but that's another gripe for another time). But come MoP the poor guy can't even get to raise his orc child with his wife without having to stomp back and take care of things. He doesn't stay neutral like a lot of Alliance lore figures have been. He needs his retirement. And he can take Malfurion with him, because I don't want you guys to have to deal with that thing.
Nagrand kind of had to be horde oriented. Maghar was a major orc installment. Meanwhile the broken are technically neutral.
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We havnt seen anything to do with Dalaran in game. Actually you're right come to think of it. This is the second time weve raided a capital and come out of it with nothing. Alliance isnt getting story development whatsoever while horde is getting 100% of it. You should probably go outside if you think MoP isn't horde sided. There's not even a point to trying to explain how much Alliance has been cheated this xpac if you cant already see it.
I disagree about a cooler alliance intro quest, after doing both I think the horde version is better as the Hozen have a far more interesting dynamic where you become one of their leaders however I don't really think the difference is great. Anduin at this point may as well be considered neutral.
My issue with MoP is how 5.3 and 5.4 are handled.
5.3 was the biggest joke yet, the horde got to fight with their leaders and heroes to win back their towns that they started in with interesting dialogue about recruiting for the war.
The alliance got to control a robo kitty to look at a couple things then have a chat to Vol'jin.
It was even worse before Blizz changed it where Vol'jin pretty much said "shut up and follow my orders or fuck off we don't need you" until the Alliance players rightfully moaned and got it changed.
5.4 is more that it literally makes 0 sense to anybody why the outcome is what it is, the alliance are clearly the superior force at the end of the raid yet willingly withdraw despite everything has happened without sorting out a peace treaty or a return of land
"Isn't Falstad dead?"
that's a pure indication of Blizz devs or so called "story tellers" not knowing WHAT THE F*** they are talking about or doing in the game.
all they care about is the MONEY!!!
the alliance has had the best lore this expansion. ive never felt more badass as an alliance player than this expansion and the alliance kicked butt this entire expansion, they pretty much didnt lose a single battle besides theramore and they completely won the pandaren expedition.
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The opening to the Alliance in Pandaria is great. But the problem that I personally have is... Well, can you tell me what Geblin Mekkatorque is doing for the Alliance War effort? What about Velen? Genn Greymane? Doing my quests through Pandaria I haven't seen them do much... But I've seen Garrosh fight with Baine, I've seen what happens after Garrosh treats the blood elves like they're cannon fodder and Lor'themar's actions on the thunder island. Vol'jin got a shank to the throat before lying low to go hunting later. Through the short stories I've read that Gallywiz is hunting for artefacts to keep them away from Garrosh. I've seen more about the horde leaders through my in game playthrough than I have about the Alliance ones, as an alliance player. It does not seem, to me, that an alliance plot is as interesting when most of our quests involve us spying on the horde to see what they're doing.
I claim Alliance bias. They should have to pay the Horde tribute for daring to set foot in our sovereign land.
Also, Highwarkingchief Big-Chin should dance the hully-gully on top of the remains of Loch Modan dam wearing a pink tutu. Just cos.
The Alliance and Horde intros are pretty much equal. The Alliance swoops in on a Zeppelin and orchestrates an attack against an established Horde base and takes it. The Horde swoops in on a Zeppelin and orchestrates an attack against an established Alliance base and takes it.
And yet, just as with most other significant Alliance figures, he's made neutral and on par with Wrathion and Sunwalker Dezco in terms of neutrality.
And the point made in your brackets is what matters. Horde got to raid Theramore; resulting in its total destruction. Horde got to raid Gilneas; rendering it a ghost town. Hell, prior to WoW itself, the Orcs raided Stormwind and left it in ruins. The only reason the Defias Brotherhood exists is because of what followed that ransacking. So in total; the Alliance have lost around 3 cities in lore, and managed to reclaim/rebuild one of them. Two Horde cities have been invaded by the Alliance; Undercity and Orgrimmar. With the former, we unwittingly help the Forsaken take back the Undercity thanks to us routing the demons and Jaina teleporting us out just as Varian had the notion to eliminate Thrall/Sylvanas there and then. The second, Orgrimmar, we willingly invade alongside the Horde, and we ultimately help them take it back.
These are the distinctions to be made.
And who is then calmed down by her Blue dragon lover and returned to her neutral state once more; par for the course when it comes to the Alliance.
I won't be a fool, but I will say it's Horde-centric.
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I knew that Nagrand would be special to the horde, and I'm fine with that. What I wasn't fine was having to go to wowhead and read horde questlines to piece together just what the hell we'd been doing there, since not only did the horde get all the focus, but the alliance didn't even get a postcard explaining what we missed.