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How strong is he, and could he have stood a chance against someone like deathwing? Everyone talks about him likes hes practically a god.
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Thread: How Strong is Velen?
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2013-07-17, 08:42 PM #1The Unstoppable Force
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How Strong is Velen?
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2013-07-17, 08:43 PM #2Mechagnome
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I believe his power's are equal to archimonde and kil'jaeden
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2013-07-17, 08:44 PM #3High Overlord
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While raiding him back in wrath, raid leader decided it was a funny idea to disarm someone who spams holy spells.
He two-shot the tank with melee attacks.
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2013-07-17, 08:44 PM #4Scarab Lord
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He had the potential to be as strong as Archimonde and Kil'Jaedan, but he didn't take the easy option. However I still expect he is incredibly powerful and knowledgeable
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2013-07-17, 08:46 PM #5Deleted
He's over NINE THOUSAND!!!
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2013-07-17, 08:48 PM #6Deleted
i don't think we will ever find out either cos he's a pacifist apparently.
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2013-07-17, 08:48 PM #7Herald of the Titans
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Probably under Archimonde and KJ in destructive power, but he has healing abilities and ability to see the future, iirc.
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2013-07-17, 08:49 PM #8The Insane
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Velen is a lover not a fighter. He can't be that strong if the only thing that prevented him from being murdered by orcs was that he ran and hid.
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2013-07-17, 08:51 PM #9Elemental Lord
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Powerful enough to be good at hide and seek.
Basically WoWs version of Osama bin Laden
We have faced trials and danger, threats to our world and our way of life. And yet, we persevere. We are the Horde. We will not let anything break our spirits!"
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2013-07-17, 08:51 PM #10The Unstoppable Force
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Uh, because he can't kill all the orcs when vastly out numbered that means he's not powerful?
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2013-07-17, 08:52 PM #11The Undying
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This, really. Maybe a little less due to no corruption. Maybe a little stronger due to no corruption. Originally Posted by Keny
I mean, the man is ancient already - I bet he knows some tricks.FOMO: "Fear Of Missing Out", also commonly known as people with a mental issue of managing time and activities, many expecting others to fit into their schedule so they don't miss out on things to come. If FOMO becomes a problem for you, do seek help, it can be a very unhealthy lifestyle..
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2013-07-17, 08:52 PM #12The Insane
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Archimonde didn't have a problem. Originally Posted by Wyrt
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2013-07-17, 08:53 PM #13Elemental Lord
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In terms of strength and power though not much displays of that Originally Posted by Gehco
The only powers he shows is knowledge and his visionsWe have faced trials and danger, threats to our world and our way of life. And yet, we persevere. We are the Horde. We will not let anything break our spirits!"
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2013-07-17, 08:54 PM #14Stood in the Fire
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depends on how you define strong. personally I see him as strong in terms of holy magic, he's both a prophet to his people and a mentor for anduin's training to be a priest. but that said I haven't seen much else to make him really special by WoW standards...he's on good terms with the naaru but that's not saying a lot when they don't want to get involved with anything but legion based problems. he has visions but he has so many of them that might not even happen that he doesn't take action. in terms of physical and magical strength he COULD have been extremely powerful but he turned down sargeras' promises of power and fled with the eredar that became the draenei....really I don't see much special about him aside from "he was a leader when sargeras came to claim the eredar as servants" because his other strengths are either useless in most situations or also a weakness.
...at this point it's almost guaranteed that "war in warcraft" is garrosh getting on his incompetent podium to declare yet another group his enemy for the crime of breathing his air, alliance saying this is horde favoritism, and the more....special....yes.. let's go with special... horde players seeing garrosh as a god because he lets them attack the alliance players who keep saying that out being led by a moron is horde favoritism.
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2013-07-17, 08:54 PM #15Elemental Lord
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has the Scourge mill bout for 45 mins then just destorys the Night Elf base in a wave of his hand Originally Posted by Aquamonkey
Guess he does have patience........We have faced trials and danger, threats to our world and our way of life. And yet, we persevere. We are the Horde. We will not let anything break our spirits!"
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2013-07-17, 08:55 PM #16Scarab Lord
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I'm sure he's no pushover, but ultimately his strength lies in his prophetic abilities rather then his proficiency in combat. He certainly doesn't possess god-like powers, or he would of used them to protect the Draenei against the genocide conducted by the Orcs.
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2013-07-17, 08:55 PM #17Spam Assassin!
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There are two answers to this, both contradictory to one another:
1. Lore: probably about as powerful as anyone.
2. Practical real world: He used to be just about the easiest of all the leaders to take down for the "For the Horde" achievement. Partially because he's a lot easier to get to and there used to be fewer guards to deal with at the Exodar. Still, if he was as powerful as the lore says...well, there's that.
Haven't done this in years so I don't know what it's like now though."...money's most powerful ability is to allow bad people to continue doing bad things at the expense of those who don't have it."
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2013-07-17, 08:56 PM #18The Undying
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Visions can be strong powers too. We haven't really seen him use his strength. And as a city raid boss, that doesn't really count in my book. Originally Posted by Dreknar20
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2013-07-17, 08:58 PM #19Stood in the Fire
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the issue I see isn't that he didn't fight when outnumbered it's that the entirety of draenei lore after the retcon from them just being broken is "I don't wanna join sargeras, let's run away" "I don't wanna try and fight the wave of enemies chasing us, let's run away to the next inhabited planet and let them massacre this one without even giving a warning" "I'm not sure we can handle the orcs, let's let them kill most of us so the rest can run away abandoning the survivors", "oh hey, alliance...we can stop running away now guys we have a faction protecting us" Originally Posted by Wyrt
...at this point it's almost guaranteed that "war in warcraft" is garrosh getting on his incompetent podium to declare yet another group his enemy for the crime of breathing his air, alliance saying this is horde favoritism, and the more....special....yes.. let's go with special... horde players seeing garrosh as a god because he lets them attack the alliance players who keep saying that out being led by a moron is horde favoritism.
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2013-07-17, 08:58 PM #20Spam Assassin!
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I can agree with this but it's a bit disconnected from the lore. Originally Posted by Gehco
"...money's most powerful ability is to allow bad people to continue doing bad things at the expense of those who don't have it."
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