News flash! Garrosh + his Kor'kron do not equal the Horde. The Alliance does not win anything-- they help overthrow Garrosh with the Horde. Furthermore, this raid is supposed to be a bloodbath and the Alliance is over-extended. A war between Alliance & Horde forces following Garrosh's end would not go well for either side. Hell, the only reason the Alliance is even involved in the first place is because Vol'jin asked for their help.
The point is, if Alliance seized Org (or attempted to) they'd probably be decimated in the process. The Tauren & (now) Goblin capital cities are nearby and would easily re-take Org before the Alliance could resupply their forces. The Blood Elves & Forsaken would then use the opportunity to march down and conquer more of Eastern Kingdoms. All this happening while the humans and dwarves are sailing across the sea.
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I think this could be very interesting if they put a right spin on it.
- Alliance Semi-Conquers Horde.
- Orgrimar and other Horde cities are filled with Alliance guards.
- Horde are the "lesser", underdog faction for about the length of a minor patch (like 5.3) or so
- Huge PVP event before the next expansion
- Horde slowly gather their forces in the background. Great quests on both sides. Horde players are part of the brewing rebellion. One of the lesser leaders of the Alliance has gotten some tip about this, and now sends the player to investigate. Try to get some more information before informing the King through an epic quest line.
The final (solo) quest for both factions is released.
The Alliance player finally gets absolute confirmation that shit is about to get real. Oh No! It's too late! (Phased) Huge battle in erupts Orgrimmar (carefully crafted PVE sequence or a cutscene). The player somehow gets knocked out during the battle.
Wakes up in some Priest healing quarters (whatever, damn hospital).
They fully heal you up, and you are informed that the biggest blood bath in generations is going on RIGHT NOW, somewhere on neutral territory. The Alliance are desperately trying to gain back control of the Horde. The Horde is so vicious right now from being bitc@#$ of the Alliance ever since Garrosh was killed, they are insane, and they want Wrynns head.
You accept the quest to go to the location where the final battle for control of the Horde is taking place.
"If you're back to your full strength, depart immediately! We need more soldiers on the battlefield!"
A Mage portal to the place of the battle (some suitable area) is waiting for you somewhere in Stormwind.
The Horde obviously has been part of the rebellion since the beginning.
The battle will have a ton of NPC's going at it, as well as all of the players (prepare for lagfest). At the end of the battle, the party is crashed by some news of the new threat to Azeroth (expansion, let's assume Burning Legion). Both factions NEED to call it truths for the moment to build back their strength against the cataclysmic events to come.
At the end of the 2-3 day pre-expansion event, the player will obviously get a FoS, and some sort of faction-unique vanity item (like the Haunted Locket in Wrath). The battle itself would involve a couple of quests such as kill 100 horde / 50 horde players in that zone (you choose which one, if your server has no horde / alliance to kill or you hate PVP) and other fun objectives to help out in the battle.
PS: Obviously the horde players will not notice the short Alliance presence in Orgrimar aside from the guards having new models for a while and maybe occasionally /spitting on them or rude comments about their smell. You don't have to participate in the festivities if you don't want to.
*** I have absolutely no clue if this has a million inconsistencies. I don't know too much about the Lore. Just a bit of fun and an example of how they could actually turn this into something cool.
Blizz forgot how to write lore long time ago. Still nothing can be worse than Dragon Soul lore wise.
Haven't read all the replies in this thread but look at real life. Why do you think there was a WW2?
tbh wow lore hasn't that been very strong the past few years..we have gone from having interesting characters and stories to the same old boss coming back 50 odd times >.<
Dude, the lore has been bad since Cataclysm launched. And it's honestly only getting worse. The mere fact that they focused an entire expansion's worth of content around panda land speaks volumes of the lore Blizzard is baking over at their HQ. Alot of people, including myself, stopped giving two shits about the lore after we killed the Lich King, because all meaningful lore died with him. Ever since then, it's just been kind of a random hodge podge of whatever the hell Blizzard can come up with and throw into the game. I even stopped reading the Warcraft books because the lore is getting so bad and fucked up at this point (and this is someone who had read every single Warcraft book since the original #1, #2, and #3 Warcraft books had come out).
The common man is like a worm in the gut of a corpse, trapped inside a prison of cold flesh, helpless and uncaring, unaware even of the inevitability of its own doom.
Keep your friends close, your enemies closer.
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There is 101 stories that could be written to make this fit. After SOO Wrynn might strike up peace with the new Horde leadership, shocker I know, fancy there not being war in Warcraft, or some big enemy shaped up to be villain in the next ex-PAC, but come 6.0 something flairs up to disrupte the peace, and thus commence the bloodshed. Wouldn't it be a turn up if both leaders went "hey, great job on Garrash, wanna chill for a few years ?" "Ya mon".
WHEN I POST IN CAPS CURSE SPEAK FOR ALL PALADINS AND REFRAIN FROM PUNCTUATION EXCEPT AT THE END OF MY SENTENCE WHERE I USE EXTRA YOU CAN'T ARGUE WITH MY LOGIC!!!!!!!
The whole expansion pandas have been telling us that BALANCE is important, and that the Horde and Alliance balance each other out, improve each other and complement each other.
The heir to the throne of Stormwind has been traveling around Pandaria the whole expansion, he has been learning these lessons the whole time, Varian has been shown to pay more and more attention to his son and his ideals. There is the possibility that Anduin himself convinced his father to back out, or maybe the newly enlightened Vol'jin(from that new book) talks him down.
Beyond that the Alliance has always been shown to be, at the very least, above senseless slaughter. Even after end of the second war they interned the orcs, instead of executing them.
What I'm trying to say is that just because some dragon whelp thinks his genocidal plan was the best course of action does not make it so. Furthermore the seeds of the Alliance taking the high road at the end of this conflict have been in the lore since the bloody RTS games.