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    Retribution T16 items list.

    All items are from PTR, itemization might change
    - Item names and which boss drop each item added.
    - Added loot table for bosses.
    Best itemized items will be marked with "#"
    This is in no way a BiS list, too many variables and tier itemizations and such is going to change things. These are simply the items from PTR that are datamined and marked off to indicate which items are best suited for retribution paladins.


    Cloaks:
    - Drape of the Despairing Pit # Boss 3
    - 5.4 Raid - Normal - Siege of Orgrimmar - Trash Loot.
    - 5.4 Raid - Normal - Siege of Orgrimmar - Trash Loot.
    Legendary cloak (or 600 epic cloak) is going to beat all of theese obviously.


    Rings:
    - Seal of the Forgotten Kings # Boss 10
    - Asgorathian Blood Seal # Boss 12
    - Devilfang Band Boss 11
    - Sorrowpath Signet Boss 2
    - Bloodclaw Band Boss 7


    Necks:
    - Juggernaut's Ignition Keys Boss 6
    - Malkorok's Tainted Dog Tags # Boss 9

    Trinkets:
    - Fusion-Fire Core Cleave trinket.
    - Evil Eye of Galakras Cooldown reducing trinket. Boss 5#
    - Thok's Tail Tip. Stat amplifying trinket. Boss 11#
    - Skeer's Bloodsoaked Talisman. Crit trinket. Boss 13#
    - 5.4 Raid - Normal - Siege of Orgrimmar - Boss X Loot X. Haste proc trinket.

    Boots:
    - Greaves of Sublime Superiority . Boss 4
    - Wolf-Rider Spurs . # Boss 7
    - Malkorok's Giant Stompers . Boss 9


    Belts:
    - Poisonbinder Girth Boss 2
    - Demolisher's Reinforced Belt # Boss 6
    - Ashen Wall Girdle Boss 7


    Wrists:
    - Bubble-Burst Bracers. # Boss 1
    - Bracers of Blind Hatred . # Boss 3
    - Wall-Borer Bracers . Boss 6
    Which wrists you end up using depends on how much hit is on tier pieces and how much you can reforge away, if you can use the hit on the bracers from Boss 1 then they're best itemized.

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    Below are inset items (Head, Shoulder, Chest, Gloves and Legs) any of which can turn out to be our offset item depending on itemization of our tier pieces.

    Head:
    - Helm of the Night Watchman . Boss 10
    - Thranok's Shattering Helm . # Boss 5


    Shoulder:
    - Spaulders of the Fallen Warchief . Boss 14
    - Tusks of Mannonroth **SPECIAL**. # Boss 14
    - Darkfallen Shoulderplates # Boss 2
    - Krugruk's Rigid Shoulderplates Boss 5
    - Early PTR tagged them as SPECIAL. Spaulders of the Fallen Warchief and Tusks of Mannoroth both drop from the same boss according to PTR files, unclear what this means at this point but a heroic only mechanic (think HC Rag in firelands) isn't impossible.
    *Most recent PTR build has both shoulders from Garrosh listed (in all difficulties), it might be because Garrosh's shoulders are so iconic that they felt they had to be in (which I think is a shame unless they're ridiculously rare).

    Chest:
    - Chestplate of Congealed Corrosion # Boss 1
    - Breastplate of Shamanic Mirrors Boss 7


    Gloves:
    - Corruption-Rotted Gauntlets . # Boss 1
    - Tar-Coated Gauntlets . Boss 6
    - 5.4 Raid - Normal - Siege of Orgrimmar - Trash Loot.


    Legs:
    - Legplates of Willful Doom Boss 9
    - Legplates of Unthinking Strife #
    - Balanced Trillium Legplates - Crafted.


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    Tier pieces:
    - T16 Retribution Helm.
    - T16 Retribution Shoulders.
    - T16 Retribution Chest.
    - T16 Retribution Gloves
    - T16 Retribution Legs.
    Protection T16 Gloves have interesting stats as well and can be considered.
    - T16 Protection Gloves.


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    Weapons:
    - Britomart's Jagged Pike Polearm. # Boss 11
    - Greatsword of Pride's Fall 2H Sword. Boss 4
    - Gar'tok, Strength of the Faithful 2H Mace. Boss 8
    - Xal'atoh, Desecrated Image of Gorehowl 2H Axe. Boss 14

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    Loot tables for ret, PTR so these might change.
    Some items still missing information on where they drop (tier pieces and trinkets)
    If you find information on where they drop please feel free to inform in a reply or PM. Thanks.
    Boss 5
    - Krugruk's Rigid Shoulderplates
    - Evil Eye of Galakras Cooldown reducing trinket. Boss 5#
    Boss 7
    - Wolf-Rider Spurs . #
    Boss 11
    - Devilfang Band
    - Britomart's Jagged Pike Polearm. #
    - Thok's Tail Tip. Stat amplifying trinket. Boss 11#
    Boss 13
    - Skeer's Bloodsoaked Talisman. Crit trinket. Boss 13#
    Last edited by Huntingbear_grimbatol; 2013-08-02 at 09:24 PM.
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    That offset helm looks like the strongest contender for our off piece.

    Also, polearm has the best-looking stats....aww yiss.

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    Like I said it's really early to tell, I'm slightly worried about the "good" itemized pieces for us have blue sockets which means hit or stam + haste gems. Depending on how much hit there's on the 4 tier pieces we need and how much we can reforge away we might have to pick wierd items or gems again. But hey, at least there's not a weapon with 2k hit and a trinket with 2.5k hit... yet.
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    Any1 figure which 2 trinkets are actualy best for ret?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelyka View Post
    Any1 figure which 2 trinkets are actualy best for ret?
    On PTR atm the crit trinket is retardedly OP, talking about 40% crit with around 60% uptime just from the trinket. We expect it to be nerfed heavily but no words yet, if it's not getting nerfed it's going to be mandetory.

    The CD reducing trinket and the stats amplification trinket both have their uses and I'd like them to be our 2 choices and I really think they will be our 2 choices if the crit trinket gets nerfed. If blizzard lost their fucking mind and decides not to nerf the crit trinket then it's going to depend on the fight as far as I've tested.
    I encourage everyone to ask questions about the crit stacking trinket, that trinket alone is going to break the dps completely. You had fears about the cd reducing trinket being too strong think again...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantoms View Post
    That offset helm looks like the strongest contender for our off piece.

    Also, polearm has the best-looking stats....aww yiss.
    Noooo I don't want another polearm! The transmogs are awful!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revvo View Post
    Noooo I don't want another polearm! The transmogs are awful!
    sonic spear

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    My god, the itemization on all the non tier pieces is excellent for Ret, a quick glance and I see only a neck which doesn't have haste on it? And what will be BiS offpiece, the shoulders or the chest, I guess it depends on which tier piece has the worst stats but those shoulders are mental with the 3 sockets.
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    Well we still don't know if haste will be the best stat (or nearly as strong as it is now), I'd keep a close eye on mastery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Revvo View Post
    Noooo I don't want another polearm! The transmogs are awful!
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=70165
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    Human and dwarf paladins will most likely be looking at the mace, unless the tier pieces have insane expertise gains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revvo View Post
    Noooo I don't want another polearm! The transmogs are awful!
    I remember GC either responding to a tweet or posting somewhere that they are trying to get sword/axe/mace <--> polearm transmog working?

    I could be remembering incorrectly though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeseidon View Post
    I remember GC either responding to a tweet or posting somewhere that they are trying to get sword/axe/mace <--> polearm transmog working?

    I could be remembering incorrectly though.
    It might be implemented in 5.4, might not.
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    dat polearm hnnnnnnnnnnnng
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    Special shoulders could be shoulders that look like Garrosh's, but that's just personal speculation.

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    ty for this list and the hard work that went into making it huntingbear

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revvo View Post
    Noooo I don't want another polearm! The transmogs are awful!
    I'm sorry, but if you don't like Hellreaver then you need to rethink your priorities in life.
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    Back in Molten Core in Vanilla, about 20 people up and the rest still being ressed. Cidet, our rogue, goes in stealth and moves up to Ragnaros. About 5 seconds later, Ragnaros aggroes and starts killing all of us again. Everyone is pissed and I whisper Cidet "wtf happened?!". All he replies me is...

    "Target has no pockets"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeryana View Post
    I'm sorry, but if you don't like Hellreaver then you need to rethink your priorities in life.
    Already used sonic spear, currently using hellreaver, and I don't like any scythe transmogs. Your choices are super limited. Not to mention fem blood elf polearm animations are so awkward looking.

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    Honestly the mace might end up being better than the polearm depending on what else you're wearing, we're looking at an almost attainable haste softcap already.

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    For progression purposes, the sword will probably be nice, simply because it drops so early in the instance.

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