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  1. #1481
    In my opinion it's just fine that Blizzard added cosmetic items bought through the Blizzard store, because the items don't give any boost to anything within the game. Your DPS will not get higher, you will not gain more experience, you will not get extra % of loot or anything, it's only looks. There are tons of MMO's around where you actually CAN buy items with real money which improve your in-game performance regarding DPS and such. Look at Age of Empires Online for example.

    Also, I can imagine Blizzard is trying to harvest more money in other ways, as their amount of subscribers are lowered compared to last years. What if Blizzard did something else to get their wages from their Subscribers, like raising the subscription costs? I'm sure most of the players would prefer the cosmetic-shop tactic instead of it. Blizzard could also just force you to pay more for your subscription, but they aren't. (Again, there are also lots of MMO's which do raise the subscription costs and force their players to pay more.) You're free to buy or not to buy the cosmetic items and it doesn't change your in-game performance. So in the end, be happy that Blizzard added those free-to-buy cosmetic items instead of forcing you to pay more by raising your subscription-costs. Blizzard had to do something to keep their incomes safe, and I think they made a good decision using this tactic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kazih View Post
    Blizzard doesn't even read EU forums. Kicking people in lfr is largely only thing that blizzard might give a shit about.
    Where do you pull that myth from? Blizzard doesn't read the EU forums? Where do the blue posts come from, that respond to the EU threads?
    And are you even aware that not only do they read their own official forums of all the regions. They also read other forums, like this one here....
    "The pen is mightier than the sword.. and considerably easier to write with."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duster505 View Post
    Well... looking at it from a "ruining others game experience" point of view. Some might actually find it ruin their game experience to all of a sudden see WOW turn into a game where real life money is starting to control how players ingame look.
    Players wearing vanity helms in LFR affect performance and experience?

    No.

  4. #1484
    Or again, more likely blizz either removes or changes the lfr kick since that earns them no money. congrats.
    We have felled demon commanders, cowed the master of death, conquered Old Gods, and stopped the Aspect of Death from destroying the very planet. Now, we need to kill this dude who managed to enslave pudding eating panda's, slobbering sauroks, and hilariously inept hozen. Awesome. Really epic.

  5. #1485
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaykay View Post
    there are many reasons to be repulsed by the business practices used in the blizzard store providing content that we as customers should be getting for free as content in the game, We pay a subscription for.
    the people buying the helmets pay a subscription too you know?
    you act as if there aren´t 100+ newly introduced items in the game with every damn patch...the helmets are purely cosmetic and it´s no different from the purchasable mounts we had for years

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    Quote Originally Posted by naturetauren View Post
    Remember me the day it comes out.
    Remember me when it doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerraw View Post
    Remember me when it doesn't.
    He'll never forget you, then. It's almost romantic.
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
    Also, it's should HAVE. NOT "should of". "Should of" doesn't even make sense. If you think you should own a cat, do you say "I should of a cat" or "I should have a cat"? Do you HAVE cats, or do you OF cats?

  8. #1488
    Quote Originally Posted by Zooch View Post
    >random guy
    >buys xmog helm
    >wear during LFR
    >get kicked
    >join another LFR
    >get kicked
    >f**k these helms I'm not buying anymore

    That's why you kick them.
    VK doesn't work like that. After a while they will be immune to a VK so they can afk, ninjapull bosses, need roll on lockboxes all while wearing the helm to their heart's content. So, tell us, when the "f**k these helms I'm not buying anymore" comes then.

  9. #1489
    Quote Originally Posted by kazih View Post
    What kind of non-childish/petty protest would you suggest then?
    Unsubscribe. It's the only thing they might actually pay attention to, and it'll give everyone else a much better game experience without you in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildtree View Post
    Where do you pull that myth from? Blizzard doesn't read the EU forums? Where do the blue posts come from, that respond to the EU threads?
    And are you even aware that not only do they read their own official forums of all the regions. They also read other forums, like this one here....
    the blues on EU forums are just CMs, basically mods. no Devs post on the EU forums sadly. they might read them, but it would be nice if some of the devs posted on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zooch View Post
    >random guy
    >buys xmog helm
    >wear during LFR
    >get kicked
    >join another LFR
    >get kicked
    >f**k these helms I'm not buying anymore

    That's why you kick them.
    Something you may not understand yet. There are people like me who work for a living, pay their bills and taxes, and have some extra cash to spend so they buy one of the transmog helms. It's a vanity item that doesn't give me any advantage over anyone else. When the day comes that they start selling current tier items, then you have a valid complaint. Until then, grow the hell up and quit obsessing how other people spend their money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KWC3587 View Post
    Or again, more likely blizz either removes or changes the lfr kick since that earns them no money. congrats.
    The VK could in fact be removed, and if replaced correctly, it would be a huge improvement.
    Remove VK, replace with:
    check toons against their activity.
    shorten the DC auto kick timer.
    block spec change while inside the instance.

    The only thing left then would be the grievers that are pulling trash and such on purpose to cause a raid wipe. But maybe there's a smart solution for them as well..
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  13. #1493
    Quote Originally Posted by serenka View Post
    the blues on EU forums are just CMs, basically mods. no Devs post on the EU forums sadly. they might read them, but it would be nice if some of the devs posted on it.
    They do read. They even read 3rd party forums like MMOchamp's. They rarely reply though because it almost never ends well.

  14. #1494
    I'm glad that people are doing this, maybe it will make less people buy the items and will make sure Blizzard doesn't repeat their mistake again.

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    Giving away 3 more items from blizzard store.
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  16. #1496
    Quote Originally Posted by Solidsteel View Post
    I'm glad that people are doing this, maybe it will make less people buy the items and will make sure Blizzard doesn't repeat their mistake again.
    Like what happened when people complained and they got rid of the sparkling horse, LFR, and LFG.
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
    Also, it's should HAVE. NOT "should of". "Should of" doesn't even make sense. If you think you should own a cat, do you say "I should of a cat" or "I should have a cat"? Do you HAVE cats, or do you OF cats?

  17. #1497
    Quote Originally Posted by Huntingbear_grimbatol View Post
    Giving away 3 more items from blizzard store.


    Sure. Hand me one.



    Just kidding.
    Quote Originally Posted by leaks View Post
    Well it's good to see the keyboard activists in full effect. Doing the laziest, most asinine thing they could think of off the top of their heads and calling it justice while making no difference.
    Quote Originally Posted by C9H20
    Blizzard effectively wants to have its cake and eat it too by pretending to have this groundbreaking war in a faction capital while at the same time being completely unwilling to portray logical consequences of such an event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solidsteel View Post
    I'm glad that people are doing this, maybe it will make less people buy the items and will make sure Blizzard doesn't repeat their mistake again.
    What the fuck it doesn't do anything do... ALL IT WILL DO IS FIX THE LFR TOOL that's all that will happen. If it makes money why the F would you NOT try it again? It's strictly business

    Tell me do you think they did shit with TRH? No they fucking added the lion then the Golden noodle what makes you think this will be ANY diffirent?

    Use logic god dammit lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    Sure. Hand me one.



    Just kidding.
    already gave 2 away.
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  20. #1500
    Quote Originally Posted by Wildtree View Post
    The VK could in fact be removed, and if replaced correctly, it would be a huge improvement.
    Remove VK, replace with:
    check toons against their activity.
    shorten the DC auto kick timer.
    block spec change while inside the instance.

    The only thing left then would be the grievers that are pulling trash and such on purpose to cause a raid wipe. But maybe there's a smart solution for them as well..
    You want a system to differentiate a VK based on an accidental ninjapull versus a grieving one? How would such a thing even work without being free of problems in itself? Current VK is okay except the stupid immunity thing and perhaps the number of votes needed for a kick. If the majority want to kick someone out for wearing a fancy dress helm so be it, and to be honest think yourself lucky you wont have to be in their company any longer.

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