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  1. #381
    Quote Originally Posted by DeadmanWalking View Post
    The only reason those old guys gripe is because they are getting old and insecure. When they see a teenager walking down the road they see a young punk out to destroy the neighborhood and commit crimes, what it really is is some kid walking home from school and the only thought in his head is getting home in time for dinner and playing some video games.

    Much like LFR hatin raiders like to constantly make cry baby posts about LFR, because they can't handle change in their environment, are self centered and think everything revolves around them and their view of reality is severely skewed.
    Then what does that say about those who threw a huge hissy fit and took things very personally in Cata to the point of creating a very big negative PR storm telling all that they should quit WoW and turn away any potential customers all the while calling themselves casuals and bashing those who take the game seriously?

    If anyone is insecure it is those who have to latch on to the belief that they represent the majority. It takes bigger balls to standby yourself than to jump on a bandwagon.
    Last edited by nekobaka; 2013-08-20 at 03:49 AM.

  2. #382
    Am I the only long term (played from 2006 until I quit around a year ago, and a hardcore raider for almost that entire time, including clearing part of Naxx at 60) who HATES restrictions on using flying mounts? I don't know if it's because I've never been into world PvP (unless it's mind controlling people into lava outside of Molten Core back in the day...) or because I find it more fun to explore and admire zones from the air than the ground, but I don't get why hating flying is considered a "hardcore" thing.

  3. #383
    Quote Originally Posted by XJ9 View Post
    - Removal of flying mounts in Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor
    - Removal of LFR
    - LFD only available for level 90 characters
    - Faction imbalances fixed and servers merged -> Removal of CRZ
    - Item squish to WotLK level
    - Less CC
    - Old Talents
    - Removal of 10 win cap for arenas -> Introduction of team rating requirements for arena gear again
    - Removal of shared raid lockouts

    Would you come back? If not, what would make you come back?
    All of this is from a PURE PVE player perspective.. I have never touched pvp.
    1. yes I honestly do not like flying mounts in EK and Kalimdor. I think the removal would make achievements like "For the Horde" feel like it used to in vanilla instead of flying into the faction leaders room and not raiding the actual city and killing all in your path.
    2. yes, easy gear. I would prefer to work for my gear instead of auto-attack afk.
    3. no, LFD made leveling 100000x easier. I prefer leveling to be easier because its the end game content that matters to me.
    4. yes and no. If they made every server into stormrage I would not like it because I hate crowded servers with a passion. I actually like a chance at rare mobs without having to camp for hours. If they made every server decently populated to where you are not crowded but there is just enough people to keep a server active and going I would be very happy. I prefer having my server NOT crash every week.
    5. Doesn't change much imo but smaller numbers are better than the current state of stats.
    6. why less CC when we hardly CC as is?
    7. It does not matter to me but it does add a bit more uniqueness to the talents instead of "Pick these spells because every other spell sucks" even though old talents were pretty much almost the same.
    8. I don't pvp. This does not effect me at all.
    9. Yes. 100%. I hate having to level 5 other alts to get as much raid content as I want. It will bring servers together. For example. Raiders in a 10 man guild can join GDKP runs or just run with friends to help them out and everyone experiences ALL PERSPECTIVES OF RAIDING instead of some people only raiding 10 mans and others only raiding 25s. I love this idea more than anything else you mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XJ9 View Post
    - Removal of flying mounts in Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor
    -5 points
    - Removal of LFR
    don't care
    - LFD only available for level 90 characters
    -1 point
    - Faction imbalances fixed and servers merged -> Removal of CRZ
    I don't care about faction imbalances, less horde polluting my zones the better. CRZ removal +5 points cancels out faction imbalance fix -5 points.
    - Item squish to WotLK level
    -10 points
    - Less CC
    don't care
    - Old Talents
    nononono. 3/3 pre-req to get a talent and 2/3 this and 2/2 that vs 3/3 1/2 coz the interwebs said the first was better blah blah, glad its gone. -20 points
    - Removal of 10 win cap for arenas -> Introduction of team rating requirements for arena gear again
    coz win-trading, team dumping and carries proved how awesome people were -5 points
    - Removal of shared raid lockouts
    As long as 25s didn't get better gear as a reward for logistics, I don't mind that. +1

    Would you come back? If not, what would make you come back?
    nope, your proposed changes were far more negative than positive. i'd drive me to quit.
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  5. #385
    Quote Originally Posted by Tomana View Post
    A needed addition cannot be bad, by definition.
    Needed by lazy people? Needed to destroy server communities?

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    Haven't been really impressed with anything until now. And I still don't feel like resubbing. I've been done with it for almost a year, no point going back. I keep an eye on it because I still find the story rather interesting!

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    I will come back
    if my friends desided to play again(alone in a mmo is bad)
    agree with fly mounts
    Less dailies
    Better expansion than the 2 lasts or at least the Pandaria one

  8. #388
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonticus View Post
    no, i'd quit.
    yeah the first reply pretty much hit the nail on the head

  9. #389
    Quote Originally Posted by XJ9 View Post
    - LFD only available for level 90 characters
    All of your suggestions are shithouse, but I have to say, why in God's name would you make it available ONLY FOR 90s, rather than the other way around? The last thing on the planet I want is to lose the ability to LFD on my leveling alts. Dungeons on lowbies used to be a nightmare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadmanWalking View Post
    Much like LFR hatin raiders like to constantly make cry baby posts about LFR, because they can't handle change in their environment, are self centered and think everything revolves around them and their view of reality is severely skewed.
    Just want to dispel the notion that the people who hate on LFR are raiders.

  10. #390
    Quote Originally Posted by Dagoroth23 View Post
    Needed by lazy people? Needed to destroy server communities?
    People on low population servers, people who play late at night and wouldn't find groups at all if it didn't exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rebecca191 View Post
    Am I the only long term (played from 2006 until I quit around a year ago, and a hardcore raider for almost that entire time, including clearing part of Naxx at 60) who HATES restrictions on using flying mounts? I don't know if it's because I've never been into world PvP (unless it's mind controlling people into lava outside of Molten Core back in the day...) or because I find it more fun to explore and admire zones from the air than the ground, but I don't get why hating flying is considered a "hardcore" thing.
    Same I have played the game for like 7 year. I will just alt tab and watch youtube videos. They would have to redesign wow for me to enjoy the world again. I have seen it a million times. Mist has made it more fun with the rares and special items but that stuff only last so long.
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    1. My name is spelt "God" not "Loucious-sama".
    2. I'm not a man, because man is inherently flawed. I am in fact a being so far beyond your comprehension that archaic constraints like flesh, blood, time and consequently, gender, have no meaning to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XJ9 View Post
    - Removal of flying mounts in Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor
    - Removal of LFR
    - LFD only available for level 90 characters
    - Faction imbalances fixed and servers merged -> Removal of CRZ
    - Item squish to WotLK level
    - Less CC
    - Old Talents
    - Removal of 10 win cap for arenas -> Introduction of team rating requirements for arena gear again
    - Removal of shared raid lockouts

    Would you come back? If not, what would make you come back?
    Every single point would be a reason for me to not come back, but as long as blizzard aint stupid enough to do so, I don't have a reason to unsub


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    The expansion is not The Dark Below.

  12. #392
    If Blizzard insist that flying mounts IS the way forward then they should plan their expansions accordingly. The landmass is often too small to spend 2 years in.

    Personally, I thought the game was much more fun pre flying mounts and definitely do not like what they did to Azeroth in Cataclysm, in fact I feel robbed as I loved the old territory. They will not go back though as they are hemorrhaging enough subs without showing a weakness and going back on a major decision (which is exactly what they need to do with the talent trees for example). All my opinion only, as always.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagoroth23 View Post
    Needed by lazy people? Needed to destroy server communities?
    If by server community you mean a bunch of clans insulting each other and making life hell for new players, then maybe it needed to be destroyed.

    BC/LK raider ('07-'10)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belfpally39 View Post
    2. yes, easy gear. I would prefer to work for my gear instead of auto-attack afk.
    Then simply don't do LFR, for god's sake! Or are you forced to do so by a lunatic with a gun right behind your back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by caelius View Post
    Then simply don't do LFR, for god's sake! Or are you forced to do so by a lunatic with a gun right behind your back?
    You're telling him to use logic? Preposterous!

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    Quote Originally Posted by segoplout View Post
    If Blizzard insist that flying mounts IS the way forward then they should plan their expansions accordingly. The landmass is often too small to spend 2 years in.
    Morrowind landmass was much smaller than that, for instance. It's not just about the area, IMO.

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    I don't think these are the changes I want but I will tell you what would make me love the game again and resub:

    1. LFR redesigned: It becomes a grouping tool for old raids like SWP , Molten Core , ICC . The mob and boss levels scale up ( or you get scaled down) but it is the same forgiving difficulity as it is now in LFR. The rewards are : vanity items , transmorg gear . ( maybe with a new faction like " The Time Watchers" who want you to go back in time and relive the big victories of Azeroth or whatever)

    2. The actual raid content with the actual gear is not avalible in any watered down version until it becomes obsolete , then its avalible in LFR. Also we have one difficulity level , and half of the bosses have hard modes which you turn in while doing the fight ( like in ulduar). Raid has legendary quest lines, standard quest lines , reputation, gems associated with it. ( also an attunement which involves no grinding just story )

    3. More 5 man grouping content. 15 insances or more in an expansion , with normal and HC versions . HC versions are more like in BC but they have a curve. ( there are easy ones and then the difficulity increases so its like 5 easy 5 medium 5 hard hc instances, providing content for casual players ) I would keep the challange modes.

    I think the main idea behind my view is that, you can provide DIFFERENT content for every play style and not just make one content in hundred versions, recolor everything etc. And I have numerous other problems too much gold ( not enought gold sinks ) , PvP too e-sporty but those are smaller concerns for me.

  17. #397
    server merges is the only thing i like on that list.

    if they would remove LFR, i would insta quit

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    Quote Originally Posted by XJ9 View Post
    - Removal of flying mounts in Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor
    - Removal of LFR
    - LFD only available for level 90 characters
    - Faction imbalances fixed and servers merged -> Removal of CRZ
    - Item squish to WotLK level
    - Less CC
    - Old Talents
    - Removal of 10 win cap for arenas -> Introduction of team rating requirements for arena gear again
    - Removal of shared raid lockouts

    Would you come back? If not, what would make you come back?
    - Faction imbalances fixed and servers merged -> Removal of CRZ
    - Item squish to WotLK level
    - Less CC

    yes for those , NO for the rest.

  19. #399
    Quote Originally Posted by caelius View Post
    Then simply don't do LFR, for god's sake! Or are you forced to do so by a lunatic with a gun right behind your back?
    It's kind of hard to just not do LFR when you are in a top 50 US guild.... >_> I am forced to do LFR the beginning of every tier to make sure I walk in the raid with 4 set/bis trinks/etc.

  20. #400
    Quote Originally Posted by Belfpally39 View Post
    It's kind of hard to just not do LFR when you are in a top 50 US guild.... >_> I am forced to do LFR the beginning of every tier to make sure I walk in the raid with 4 set/bis trinks/etc.
    Given the LFR release is always staggered behind normal, how's that working out for ya?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsithis View Post
    The playerbase has been desiring this for years and when it's finally here, everyone wants to grab a pitchfork. Ridiculous. This community is disgustingly toxic.
    Please send all PM's with a read receipt, that way both you and I will know I'm not reading them....

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