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  1. #1881

  2. #1882
    Quote Originally Posted by Shad0wS0urc3 View Post
    Guys, guys listen. Guys...srsly guys listen! We're going to drop all the stats all over the place....and then give you a buff that overrides it!. #blizzlogic
    I love when people criticize "blizzlogic" and reveal their complete ignorance and inability to reason.

  3. #1883
    Amazing simply amazing ... how many people only read and understand half of the thing and start bitching and moaning, even "quitting the game if they do this".
    They have already stated, they will ADJUST EVERYTHING, they won't take soloing away, if you are able to solo something now, you will be able to do it when the squish happens, do people use logic anymore?

    As for the numbers I'm hoping for BC numbers but even that may not be possible let alone vanilla, given the amount of content wrath is more likely.
    It's pretty retarded atm and if they don't do something about it, well imagine reading 1472383 when a spell hits.


    Quote Originally Posted by Fincher View Post
    Beware of Deathwing, the Destroyer of Worlds! He has One Thousand HP ! !.
    And in that scenario you will probably hit for 3-4 damage. Do you feel better inside if you see him have 1000000000 hp and you hitting for 3000000? Easier on the eye.
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  4. #1884
    Quote Originally Posted by PetersenIII View Post
    But please, don't bother reading and turning on your brain, just respond with the expected "lol ur stupid" and "lrn2math" nonsense you ignorant fools (who ironically yourselves cannot "math"), have been saying throughout the thread.
    Because reading is hard for you quite obviously, here's a recap:

    Multiple blue posts have said they do not change the ability to solo old content. If necessary they'll throw in a buff to players to fix it.
    Never going to log into this garbage forum again as long as calling obvious troll obvious troll is the easiest way to get banned.
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    now i get it thank thats all i need to now
    but i gotta say that i dont want an item squish but if the games will function better with it it im down

  6. #1886
    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    Some people want to think they'll decrease player power and thus kill soloing.


    I say that's a waste of time and Blizzard could never realistically do that due to the backlash. Even if they did, it'd be like the RealID fiasco where the rage is too big and it'd have to be reverted.


    I say, just a certain percentage across the board so everything is weaker while the player power remains exactly the same.
    Ghostcrawler already said that in no way would they kill soloing. he said if anything they'd give us a buff when we walked into old raids that boosted us to where we are today.

  7. #1887
    Quote Originally Posted by Skymane View Post
    the buff is fucking retarded; they want to squish items/stats, just squish the bosses equally? it would be retarded that they actually redesigned all those old boss encounters to just make it able to solo it.

    this is going to be horrible. I'm willing to see what this gives but hitting for 1000 seriously, i'm out then, i'm unsubbed as we speak but hoping to come back next expansion once that panda trash is burned down.
    To everyone saying this: they ARE nerfing the old boss encounters. What they were saying was, IF for some reason soloing is STILL affected, they can always do something like a buff to compensate.
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    I have no issues about a squish at all. As much as I like big numbers it can get very complex and difficult to calculate on the fly.

    As long as solo'ing isn't affected then idc how they do it. They can buff it or drop the bosses and mobs down. Don't matter to me.

  9. #1889
    Soooo doing the new xpac content we will be doing +/- 2k DPS and doing older (Panda) content we are doing 200k DPS. Wonder how that works out....

  10. #1890
    Quote Originally Posted by DenniZ View Post
    Soooo doing the new xpac content we will be doing +/- 2k DPS and doing older (Panda) content we are doing 200k DPS. Wonder how that works out....
    You won't be doing 200k anywhere anymore but 2k when the next expansion comes out. That's how it'll work out.
    Never going to log into this garbage forum again as long as calling obvious troll obvious troll is the easiest way to get banned.
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  11. #1891
    Quote Originally Posted by Cebel View Post
    TL;DR = " Im dumb, I cant comprehend that blizzard has already thought of this and clearly as a plan in mind to prevent everything I just mentioned from negatively impacting the game. "
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquamonkey View Post
    Originally Posted by Ghostcrawler

    But can you nerf every player without in anyway effecting soloing low level content? Keep everything the same but the numbers?
    "If player enters old instance, then buff all their stats." (Source)
    Quote Originally Posted by vesseblah View Post
    Because reading is hard for you quite obviously, here's a recap:

    Multiple blue posts have said they do not change the ability to solo old content. If necessary they'll throw in a buff to players to fix it.
    Quote Originally Posted by taylor20k View Post
    Ghostcrawler already said that in no way would they kill soloing. he said if anything they'd give us a buff when we walked into old raids that boosted us to where we are today.
    Last time I checked, blizzard isn't an omnipotent entity with the ability to fundamentally alter mathematics. And cool, a buff in old raids, that doesn't affect the over world so your soloing will still be impacted whenever you're not in a raid (Doom Lord Kazzak, "powering" through quests/low-level non-raid instances for a lowbie friend, grinding old world mats, etc.). Not to mention buffing players to "fix it" is just going to cause the same issues with their "code" not being able to "compile the numbers". But hey, thanks for not bothering to actually read what I was writing and keeping your heads shoved firmly in the dirt of willful ignorance and/or blind, unthinking faith in Blizzard. It's hilarious how many simple problems with easy solutions Blizzard fucks up/ignores and you lot are sitting here arguing they can get this right, even though it's mathematically not possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PetersenIII View Post
    Last time I checked, blizzard isn't an omnipotent entity with the ability to fundamentally alter mathematics. And cool, a buff in old raids, that doesn't affect the over world so your soloing will still be impacted whenever you're not in a raid (Doom Lord Kazzak, "powering" through quests/low-level non-raid instances for a lowbie friend, grinding old world mats, etc.). Not to mention buffing players to "fix it" is just going to cause the same issues with their "code" not being able to "compile the numbers". But hey, thanks for not bothering to actually read what I was writing and keeping your heads shoved firmly in the dirt of willful ignorance and/or blind, unthinking faith in Blizzard. It's hilarious how many simple problems with easy solutions Blizzard fucks up/ignores and you lot are sitting here arguing they can get this right, even though it's mathematically not possible.

    </broken record>
    Why dont you just let Blizzard solve it? Im pretty sure they wont break the game as you might think. So just wait and see for yourself? "mathematically not possible"... ./faceplam
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  13. #1893
    Quote Originally Posted by melak View Post
    Why dont you just let Blizzard solve it? Im pretty sure they wont break the game as you might think. So just wait and see for yourself? "mathematically not possible"... ./faceplam
    But it's going to take him two hits to kill a low level quest mob! The game is RUUUUUINED!
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    Quote Originally Posted by melak View Post
    Why dont you just let Blizzard solve it? Im pretty sure they wont break the game as you might think. So just wait and see for yourself? "mathematically not possible"... ./faceplam
    What I think is most likely to happen is that there will be random Cata/MoP mobs that will be bugged and will be 1 or 2-shotting players....it's going to be like CRZ, but worse. :P And like almost everything released in WoW, there'll be a few month period of things being broken on live before everything's working correctly.

  15. #1895
    Go ahead and item squish, I couldn't care less wether I hit for 1mil or 1k, content will be scaled down anyway; so good job blizz, you got my support

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    The only problem that I will have with a squish is if they do it in a way that I can't grind old content. If you enter a dungeon, and your gear scales down to level, I will be pa pa pa pisssssed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celista View Post
    What I think is most likely to happen is that there will be random Cata/MoP mobs that will be bugged and will be 1 or 2-shotting players....it's going to be like CRZ, but worse. :P And like almost everything released in WoW, there'll be a few month period of things being broken on live before everything's working correctly.
    CRZ happened and i didn't notice the difference.
    except that there were more people questing in the world.

    if item squish were to happen in such a way as i could hardly notice the difference, then i surely could not complain.
    just as i could not complain about the smooth and barely noticeble transition into CRZ
    .


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  18. #1898
    I hope they do squish a bit, they went too far in Cataclysm and totally overdid it in MOP. Seeing people do five times as much damage as someone else in LFR is beyond ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaddd View Post
    The only problem that I will have with a squish is if they do it in a way that I can't grind old content. If you enter a dungeon, and your gear scales down to level, I will be pa pa pa pisssssed.

    The only people who say this, are the ones who haven't seen a word blizzard has said about it. (nor read anything in this thread)

  20. #1900
    http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/3...egacy-content/



    I do want to clarify, however, that our changes are only intended to offset the direct effects of the "squish" and our goal has been to make sure that linearizing the item curve between item levels ~60 and 463 doesn't impact the ability to solo legacy content. That is not the same as saying that we guarantee nothing will change, period - we've made a number of adjustments to tank mitigation, healing, defensive cooldowns, and so forth. That's nothing new for an expansion, and in some cases, yes, that will make old content more challenging than it was in 5.4.8, especially for tank specs that could previously use Vengeance to great effect. But that has nothing to do with the item squish.

    So congratulation to all Blizzard fanboys on this thread who used to believe Blizzard lies that the item squish won't affect the soloing.
    Of course they were lying. Yeah , the changes to class mecanics+the item squish TOGETHER will make bosses curently soloable harder or impossible.

    This is Blizzard's way of saying, "stuff happens we make changes, not all changes are for good, and things that you used to solo in the past you might not be able to now, but we hope one day that you might. We lied when we said that previously promised content would be just as easy to solo in the next expansion as it is now."

    in other words... our worst nightmare has just come real, those players that enjoyed farming that old content for those specific items or fun bosses might not be able to anymore.

    So sad I must post
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