View Poll Results: Will you run flex mode alongside heroic mode every week?

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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seriss View Post
    Shared lockouts would kill flex before it even started. As it is, you'll find many strong raiders who previously saved their id for their normal/heroic mainraid venture into flex to have fun with friends and to grab the one or the other achievement. (Because that's what people did in WotLk! Raid TotGC with your guild, then go normal mode with friends and some random people.)

    Also, removing LFR might be an option for the next expansion - because great overhauls always take place between expansions not during them. For the current expansion though, removing an option would do more harm than good.

    That said, I really don't mind the existence of LFR. When a raid is new, I actually enjoy getting some valor points there, just because I can.

    Yeah when thinking about it, having Flex and Normal share ID probably isn't a good idea. Wish Flex had been implemented/invented back when we got LFR, imo it would have been so much better for the game and for the community. Get rid of LFR, it's nothing but trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seriss View Post
    Shared lockouts would kill flex before it even started. As it is, you'll find many strong raiders who previously saved their id for their normal/heroic mainraid venture into flex
    so flex exists so raiders can carry noobs?
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  3. #63
    Yes and yes. Pretty much required.

  4. #64
    will i have to?

    i don't want to, but if there are upgrades in there, i guess i will. sigh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danishgirl View Post
    Yeah when thinking about it, having Flex and Normal share ID probably isn't a good idea. Wish Flex had been implemented/invented back when we got LFR, imo it would have been so much better for the game and for the community. Get rid of LFR, it's nothing but trouble.
    isn't flex designed for people that DON'T or CAN'T run normal/heroic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by asharia View Post
    i don't want to, but if there are upgrades in there, i guess i will. sigh
    i feel ya mate....almost feels like a loose loose
    Feel like shit for having to run it
    Feel like shit if you dont run it
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    Quote Originally Posted by asharia View Post
    will i have to?

    i don't want to, but if there are upgrades in there, i guess i will. sigh

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    isn't flex designed for people that DON'T or CAN'T run normal/heroic?
    Yes, but what does that have to do with LFR? With Flex LFR could be dumped and we could avoid so much crap that the "epic" experience that LFR is......

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    Flex will be for alts and for any OP trinks.

  8. #68
    Blizz... can you tell me again why 10 and 25 man modes needed a shared lock out?

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    Not sure if I'm a "hardcore progression raider", sitting at 8/13 right now, but I'd run it "every week" until it got to the point where I wouldn't consider the time investment worth it anymore; around some point where the potential upgrades are only a few single-didgit ilvl upgrades.

    I'd probably keep running it on my alts, though.
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  10. #70
    I don't see why they can't just stop you from getting loot on one difficultly if you have already killed the boss on another, really cba running everything each week !

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    Quote Originally Posted by slime View Post
    Blizz... can you tell me again why 10 and 25 man modes needed a shared lock out?
    Because they didn't want raiders to feel like they had to run 2 modes every reset - Oh wait......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danishgirl View Post
    Because they didn't want raiders to feel like they had to run 2 modes every reset - Oh wait......
    remember posts from GC about changes to LFR (bigger item lvl gap), and he said it was in order to make it less of a need for raiders to run it
    Then boom.......flex mode.......funny how that works
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    Probably - mainly because the stuff in there from what I've seen will likely be upgrades compared to stuff in heroic ToT. Between tier, trinkets, and certain off pieces. Personally I think blizz is just putting such a high item lvl on the gear there so people will run it, which I think is silly, as heroic raiders should not have to go to beginner modes the next tier, something like a 532 item level would've been much more reasonable for the stuff that drops in there.

  14. #74
    yes for the first few weeks to fill int he gaps form normal and heroic SoO. Then after that its unlikely until we want to do achievements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreknar20 View Post
    remember posts from GC about changes to LFR (bigger item lvl gap), and he said it was in order to make it less of a need for raiders to run it
    Then boom.......flex mode.......funny how that works

    It's just blizz being blizz, GC did say something about how guys that do hard modes, how they shouldn't need to do beginner stuff next tier and then they pretty much go back on that statement. They do stuff like this I think just so flex mode will look more successful then it is - they did the same with LFR and I think blizz has seen this is starting to backfire, people don't want to re-run rehashed raids just because they are the only place that will give them upgrades.

  16. #76
    Can't wait for the "LFM Flex SoO, must have 540+ ilvl and Ahead of the Curve: Garrosh" on OpenRaid.

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    Do I need the gear to improve my heroic raiding performance? If no, no (not on main). If yes, yes. This will be the answer of almost any hardcore raider.

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