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  1. #221
    Quote Originally Posted by RoKPaNda View Post
    Show me a game dev that's been in the business for several years, released several products, and hasn't stumbled once or twice.

    D3 was Blizzard's stumble. Everything else they've released was fantastic
    To be fair, as much as I despise some of D3's early design decisions, the game was fun to play and go through, at least once or twice. Where it failed was with the difficulty walls, the RMAH and the fact you had to play through 2+ times to unlock all skills.

  2. #222
    "Is Blizzard still quality games maker?"

    Yes. Of course.

    "Is Blizzard becoming one of the worst greediest companies that i have ever seen?"

    Yes. Of course.

    "Is Blizzard still delighted with the legion of zombies that moan with every minor change, even if its a tooltip change?".

    Yes. Of couse.

    "Is Blizzard going to improve World Of Warcraft?".

    Yes. Of course. Wait for the anniversary, where everybody will get a giant pink rabbiit. And the legion of zombies will keep moaning.

  3. #223
    Disclaimer: this is my personal opinion haha.

    I don't think they are, although in all honesty I've never played SC2 and trading card games are a bit too kitschy for me. I did buy Diablo 3 and was disappointed with it, and whilst I still play WoW I don't enjoy it as much as I did a few years ago (although I do hope to be wowed by the next expansion). I also look at what happened with Titan and wonder.

    Ultimately though, it's subjective. If you enjoy their products then yes they are, and vice versa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildmoon View Post
    If SoO is atleat on par with ToT then what you want will likely not happen.
    No it's already happening. SoO could be the best raid since well ever and it wouldn't make up for the rest of the game being utter trash. Now it's not likely to be the best raid ever and in fact your likely to have your face shoved into it at every turn so yea I expect a terrible end to a terrible expansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osmeric View Post
    Normal should be reduced in difficulty. Heroic should be reduced in difficulty.
    And the tiny fraction for whom heroic raids are currently well tuned? Too bad,so sad! With the arterial bleed of subs the fastest it's ever been, the vanity development that gives you guys your own content is no longer supportable.

  5. #225
    Quote Originally Posted by Glorious Leader View Post
    No it's already happening. SoO could be the best raid since well ever and it wouldn't make up for the rest of the game being utter trash. Now it's not likely to be the best raid ever and in fact your likely to have your face shoved into it at every turn so yea I expect a terrible end to a terrible expansion.
    Don't worry, in the future, I'm sure they'll put more work into the premium-only raids that they're probably planning to throw in the new in-game store. I imagine full access will only be an additional $30. Lol.

  6. #226
    Quote Originally Posted by spectrefax View Post
    Don't worry, in the future, I'm sure they'll put more work into the premium-only raids that they're probably planning to throw in the new in-game store. I imagine full access will only be an additional $30. Lol.
    That is quite easily the most retarded thing I've read all day.

  7. #227
    Blizzard makes highly polished games still. Very well made, good engines, well tested, etc.

    Their games have become increasingly generic, homoginzed, simplified, streamlined, and watered down as they have become larger and larger.

    They don't make games for gamers anymore, they make games for anyone and everyone who has $60

  8. #228
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaqwert View Post
    Blizzard makes highly polished games still. Very well made, good engines, well tested, etc.

    Their games have become increasingly generic, homoginzed, simplified, streamlined, and watered down as they have become larger and larger.

    They don't make games for gamers anymore, they make games for anyone and everyone who has $60
    Starcraft 2 is still pretty hardcore, and has a steep learning curve to master. It's simplified and streamlined compared to Brood War, but definitely not watered down or generic.

  9. #229
    Blizzard's crown is multiplayer games. The fact that so many people play their games worldwide is inarguable proof of some quality games. I don't necessarily agree with a lot of their design choices though, and the Blizzard store coming to World of Warcraft soon.

  10. #230
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaqwert View Post
    Blizzard makes highly polished games still. Very well made, good engines, well tested, etc.
    "Well tested" lol. No seriously, that's almost made me choke on my soda from laughing.

    Id say their model, especially in the past 3 or so years, has been more of a "f*ck testing, ship it and let the customers find the bugs and we'll patch them in." type model.

  11. #231
    They make very polished games, and have, from what I see, rather decent customer service compared to some of their competitors, even if they don't always go exactly in the direction folks may want them to.

    I don't think they make a particularly high volume of games, but that's probably a good thing.
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  12. #232
    High budget
    Non innovative
    Milking
    Greedy, like D3's RMAH
    Less Content than old games (such as Original WoW, Starcraft, D2, etc)

  13. #233
    It will be interesting to see how long Blizzard will be able to solely milk their 3 established franchises.

    You gotta figure at some point they'll have to do something else. Titan was supposed to be something new and I wouldn't say it's going well, considering they've been talking about it for years and have nothing to show for it but scrapped ideas.

  14. #234
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaqwert View Post
    It will be interesting to see how long Blizzard will be able to solely milk their 3 established franchises.

    You gotta figure at some point they'll have to do something else. Titan was supposed to be something new and I wouldn't say it's going well, considering they've been talking about it for years and have nothing to show for it but scrapped ideas.
    Friend of mine who is a huge blizzard addict bought gw2 to test it, because everyone else but him was playing gw2 and left wow. After 15 minutes he just logged out and said "this game is boring... you have so few skills at start" and after that we said how the world acts vs wow(you know all the dynamic events and living world) and we told him about how pvp works and how lvl scales so you can play with friends, all he said was "that's all useless shit" and left skype ... If they have brainwashed more ppl like him, they will milk A LONG TIM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaqwert View Post
    It will be interesting to see how long Blizzard will be able to solely milk their 3 established franchises.

    You gotta figure at some point they'll have to do something else. Titan was supposed to be something new and I wouldn't say it's going well, considering they've been talking about it for years and have nothing to show for it but scrapped ideas.
    When a good contender in the 3 genres they are currently ruling comes along they will have to innovate to stay competitive. The problem is that they have no real contestants that can even match their level of polish. The MMO scene is fairly weak and we have seen the "WoW-killers" come and go. The RTS scene is fairly one-sided with only a few niche games(and age of empires) reaching even close to Starcraft. And on the Hack and Slash/dungeon Crawler genre we havnt had a single game that can match the Diablo Franchise(I would argue that PoE and even Torchlight is good contestants, but they lack even more in the storytelling department than what Diablo 3 did)

  16. #236
    Quote Originally Posted by sanaubia View Post
    Friend of mine who is a huge blizzard addict bought gw2 to test it, because everyone else but him was playing gw2 and left wow. After 15 minutes he just logged out and said "this game is boring... you have so few skills at start" and after that we said how the world acts vs wow(you know all the dynamic events and living world) and we told him about how pvp works and how lvl scales so you can play with friends, all he said was "that's all useless shit" and left skype ... If they have brainwashed more ppl like him, they will milk A LONG TIM
    "Brainwashed."

    God forbid people like different things than you, ever.

  17. #237
    gw2 is nothing like WoW.
    Try Rift or SWTOR.

    Also Blizzard is in $4 billion debt now.
    If it starts to lose money, it will just go bankrupt.

    (If it had $4 billion cash, it will keep trying new ideas.
    Stock market is causing good companies go bad quickly.)
    Last edited by xenogear3; 2013-08-03 at 08:41 AM.

  18. #238
    Quote Originally Posted by rat View Post
    "Brainwashed."

    God forbid people like different things than you, ever.
    i would call it brainwashed if the only 3 games he has ever played more than 10 minutes in Diablo, SC and WoW and if you even try to mention or compare any game to those he says "stfu or i ignore you"

  19. #239
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaqwert View Post
    It will be interesting to see how long Blizzard will be able to solely milk their 3 established franchises.

    You gotta figure at some point they'll have to do something else. Titan was supposed to be something new and I wouldn't say it's going well, considering they've been talking about it for years and have nothing to show for it but scrapped ideas.
    They won't keep making these 3 franchises forever. StarCraft is coming to an end with LotV. There are 2 new unannounced games.

  20. #240
    Quote Originally Posted by RoKPaNda View Post
    Show me a game dev that's been in the business for several years, released several products, and hasn't stumbled once or twice.

    D3 was Blizzard's stumble. Everything else they've released was fantastic. You might be able to count Cataclysm, but then that's what happens when Blizzard listens to all the community whines and tries to change the game to fit them. The quality of their games is still fantastic, it's just that some of their ideas about their target audience are a little off at the moment. They'll get it eventually.
    YOU think it's fantastic, I think D3 is an excellent game all around and its sales are an incredible achievement, you wanna talk about low quality, cataclysm was a lazy, horrible expansion of WoW that did nothing but reduce the overall difficulty of WoW and make it more suitable for downs players. MoP continues this trend, but appeals to downs-people who can stomach WoWs lore being further raped by essentially china and its inhabitants.

    Quote Originally Posted by xenogear3 View Post
    gw2 is nothing like WoW.
    Try Rift or SWTOR.

    Also Blizzard is in $4 billion debt now.
    If it starts to lose money, it will just go bankrupt.

    (If it had $4 billion cash, it will keep trying new ideas.
    Stock market is causing good companies go bad quickly.)
    your knowledge of finance is astounding.

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