I'd go as far to say Garrosh pulled a misdirection, to make everyone thing he was on board with condemning his commanders for there actions, when infact he took inspiration from it.
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Mana bombs were used by kael'thas's forces in outland, garrosh obviously learned about what a mana bomb does, and decided to use it on Jaina.
Military or not, its the same as dropping a nuclear bomb and the radiation destorying the land for generations. Its the lowest act you can commit in a war, and Garrosh, who condenmed one of his own commanders for using a bomb, does something far worse.
There is no excuse. If you liked him doing it because it was evil, at least admit the fact thats why you liked it, instead of trying to justify it.
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Baine warned Jaina of the coming attack. Did you actually read the book or take word from the patsies here that didn't and think they know the story?
Garrosh waited, for as many alliance forces to gather in theramore as he could. The attack he arranged on it was to draw the alliance to theramore, gather as many people there as he could, and then kill them in a single, dishonorable move.
Oh yes, it was also said by Golden, that the effects of the mana bomb didn't just kill people, it wiped the souls out from existence. Now, try and think about that, consider what the lich king did to people, and then try and tell me what Garrosh did there, in a completely planned attack, wasn't on par with Arthas ripping someones soul apart.
When Garrosh condemned Blackscar about the cowardly act, he took a lot of time for literally decide what to say, and he felt the pressure of Thrall and Saurfang gazes on him, because inside him, despite of what he wanted to belive about what is honorable and what is not, he felt almost lifted and that was indeed a good thing that the Alliance didn't conquer the first gate leading to Arthas's reign, because that would have give them an advantage, "stealing" glory to the Horde (since he firmly belived that the Horde would have been able to kick the ass of the Scourge alone).
Now, just imagine a similar situation without Thrall and Saurfang on his back looking at him, waiting the "right" answer, but with Malkorok doing the opposite; with Garrosh not just Overlord of a Northrend base but Warchief of the Horde. Well, the similar situation have a name: Theramore.
Anyway, I was just correcting a formal mistake, and not discussing about the why Garrosh did this or that.
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My-oh-my - this Garrosh SURE is one humane chap.
On the bullshit-o-meter, your point scores just as high as the one according to which full extermination of Orcs during their internment would have been an act of compassion.
I swear that sometimes even lurking within MMO-Champ threads leaves me mentally inoperational for at least one hour afterwards.
Why is it that WoW's playerbase from MMO-champion and Scrolls-of-Lore sees no wrong in delegating vast amounts of lore with good in-game potential to the book form BUT as soon as a single character gets handled by the writer in the manner they don't like, they start whining and kicking and pushing the pram?
As horrible of a writer as Christie Golden is, you people kept asking for more and more in the ways of meager stories that only served to flatten preestablished characters - which prompted Blizzard to put more and more work in her hands. This is the fruit of your own actions, deal with it.
Doomhammer's already dead, I don't see how they can kill him again.
The fact that Arthas now is dead doesn't matter, since the Lich King still exists and, by what Blizzard made us understand, will always exists; and anyway, on paper, what the Lich King do to the souls of living beings is worse than everything else.
The irony? The most proud of the orcs actually thought excatly that. If the average orc have to choose between death and chains, he would always choose death.full extermination of Orcs during their internment would have been an act of compassion.
I find that the short answer is this: the player-base didn't like him. I felt like Blizz was trying to move the Horde back to it's roots in order to better justify the war with the Alliance, since they more-or-less haven't any reason to be fighting at all. In the end, the casual gamer is squeamish. He doesn't enjoy conquest, slavery, or wanton violence. The casual gamer is only human and the Orcs aren't supposed to be, which would make them harder to relate to the gamer. Case-in-point, Blizz is taking the safe road by making the Horde races more human and sympathetic, when they are supposed to be brutal and meritocratic.
The virtues and morals of an alien species are obviously going to be very different. What's wrong to us might be considered brave and heroic to the Orcs, just like pacifism and mercy might be considered weak and lazy to the Orcs. It's this sort of homogenization that has made me lose interest in the franchise all together, it makes no difference what side I fight for because they are essentially the same thing.