So I haven't played my rogue in like a VERY very long time and I got to ask what is the point of this ability if it doesn't work with Shadow dance?
Iirc it was usable under shadowdance but was deemed to strong (which might have been true) and then they nerfed it to the ground and left it in it's current state.
hey you have to see it positive first of all you have 2 choices left second Diablo 3 sold 12 million copys problems solved
to be serious they could just have it limited the cnd so you cant port more then twice during that period but oh well blizzard decided that we dont deserve talent choices and nerft it entirely
Last edited by Koji2k11; 2013-08-02 at 02:01 PM.
the ultimate answer's to all rogue issues in MoP:
-Reroll another class, who wants rougue's anyway.
-Diablo 3 Sold 15 Million Copys
-Haste will fix it
-Rogue's are fine
I love it on my Nelf rogue.
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Ah well anyways, it's nice to see that the rogue forum is getting more and more lady posters.
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Cloak and Dagger needs a redesign. It was last justified by the devs as a few top rated combat rogues use it in conjunction with subterfuge (which it still works with). That's fine and all, but I think it really needs to be either a cool button that offers a manner of mobility that the other two don't (for instance, proof against roots), or a passive that is legit competitive and doesn't involve the words "stealth" or "opener".
It's useful questing and such when you are in situations where it is mostly "stealth, burst down mob, drop combat, re-stealth, burst down next mob, drop combat again, re-re-stealth.
If you are in a situation where you can't drop combat to stealth, then yeah, it's usefulness is pretty much zero.
From a PvE side though I think it could only have ever switched back and forth between useless and OP... if you need to hit something and get away, H&R! Need to hit a switch no one's near in some odd mechanical situation? H&R! Kick that one mob without losing your place? H&R! Anything else: why would you EVER use this instead of ShS.
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H&R had no mechanical issues, but the targeting reticule infuriated the internal testers.
Cynically but seriously, I do not trust their internal testers on rogues very much.
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i don't know abou you but in my mind H&R wasn't that good after all. granted, it was an excellent defensive tool in porting around and fooling the others, but offensively it was really bad imho. porting to your target for 10secs of uptime and then be forced back to your original location; it was horrible as a catch-up or gapcloser. and don't forget guys: it was on a 45 secs CD which was freaking huge for a talent in our "mobility tier". i guess most people miss H&R for what it really was: a gimmicky fun-skill.