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  1. #501
    Quote Originally Posted by Vongimi View Post
    Completely different and not comparable.
    Sort of like how an American city and a consulate/annex, within a foreign country experiencing a civil war, are different and not comparable.
    Last edited by NYC17; 2013-08-07 at 01:11 AM.

  2. #502
    Quote Originally Posted by Vongimi View Post
    You can make the argument that they knew at attack was coming, I'll give you that. But the nature of the attack was so fast that by the time people knew what was going on the damage was already done. It was over in a matter of minutes. There really was no way to stop that unless you had amazing intelligence that knew exactly what planes those men were going to board, and who those men were in the first place. Benghazi was over the course of several hours with REPEATED denials of support. With the WTC attacks fighters were scrambled right away and a no-fly-zone was enforced to prevent any more attacks (ended up being no more anyways). In Benghazi several cries for help were blatantly denied over the course of hours. Completely different and not comparable.
    This is plainly false. The Clinton administration drew up a plan to go take out Al Qaeda in response to the USS Cole bombing. As it was so late in his presidency, Clinton thought it would be smarter to allow the next president to begin such an operation. Bush was given those plans and trashed them. Throughout the next months, repeated warnings were given to the administration and they were totally ignored. The only high level executive committee on terrorism was headed by Dick Cheney and didn't even have their first meeting until September 10th, which was a little too late. The CIA had an intelligence skimming computer system that was very effective and could have possibly caught the hijackers beforehand, as there were people phoning in tips about them, but that system was ENDED and replaced by a less effective one that a Republican donor was selling. There was failure, after failure, after failure.

    The military has a policy of never sending reinforcements into an unclear situation, because you stand a very good chance of making the situation significantly worse. For example, if you send aircraft into a situation not realizing you have twenty people with anti-aircraft weaponry, the death toll suddenly goes from 4 to 20. In fact, in Benghazi this was 100% the right call. The first two people were killed immediately, with no chance of being saved by reinforcements. The second two people were security contractors killed in a firefight later, which is (to put it bluntly) very acceptable losses. Had the area seen a sudden influx of dozens of soldiers, it could have exacerbated the situation and caused MORE deaths. More soldiers is more targets. The fact that there were ONLY two casualties after the initial attack is a testament to how WELL things were handled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYC17 View Post
    Sort of like how an American city and a consulate/annex, within a foreign country experiencing a civil war, are different and not comparable.
    We can compare WMD vs the difference between 'act of terror' and a 'terrorist act'. Maybe how we didn't get Bin Ladin until Obama's term in office?
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  4. #504
    Quote Originally Posted by Felya420 View Post
    We can compare WMD vs the difference between 'act of terror' and a 'terrorist act'. Maybe how we didn't get Bin Ladin until Obama's term in office?
    Well if we aren't using logic, anything is comparable!

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