Enchanting mats should go up a bit, not hypnotic dust crazy though.
Enchanting mats should go up a bit, not hypnotic dust crazy though.
There are massive issues with your analogy between wrath, cata and MoP.
1. There are not factions that you can freely buy epics from without rep.
2. There is no TOC this x-pack: TOC was pretty much a normalizer, once you hit 80, you could just get badges and get 245 gear instantly.
3. cata largely had the same system; you needed to be at certain rep points with the raid faction for gear(looking at firelands). Also with firelands, you had to do a massive amount of work from dailies to obtain any gear.
4. The reason you saw a massive spike in dragon soul is because we had several areas which to obtain new gear for alts as well as mains(of casuals)
5. Because of the instances in DS, people didnt have to go back, it was easy to get new/upgraded gear. We have raid finder this x-pack, which you need to go through a linear system to get to the most current.
People see this as an alt unfriendly expansion. They have to do a lot of work to be able to get into the first raid finder, this will help them significantly.
...living steel also increased in value, hmm wonder if there was any correlation....nnnnaaaaaaa
Last edited by usiris; 2013-08-04 at 04:36 PM.
Ghost Iron imo. People will need ghost iron to make Jard's power sources for engineering pets/mounts, and to xmute for trillium for Balanced trillium cooldowns and living steel xmutes for new eng pets/mounts.
Belt Buckles, shoulder chants, anything that new gear will need. guarenteed to go up in value when a new patch hits.
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OT: Suggesting to keep an eye out on FlexRaid and Raidfinder Wings loot and their unlock dates. For Example, if you follow Mokoshne's advice about Shoulder Enchants, check when FlexRaid&LFR Wings with ShoulderToken Bosses unlock and sell your ShoulderEnchants on that Day and on the following one, don't just sell everything on Launch Day.
Last edited by Speshil; 2013-08-06 at 06:42 AM.
Golden Lotus. The stuff will never lose value this xpac since it's needed to make both flasks and to transmute epic gems.
Considering the Sky Golem takes 30 days, minimum, to craft after 5.4 drops I wouldn't expect the living steel market to explode with demand. That's 30 days of living steel transmutes, which, shockingly enough, is the same number of living steel you need.
Back on topic. Anyone who truly invests heavy in materials will diversify their stock. I will have bank tabs full of raw GIO, GI bars, trillium bars, at least 500 LS and at least 1500-2k GL and stacks upon stacks of gems both cut and uncut, stacks of chants, buckles, shoulder chants etc. This way you can react quickly to the market and have virtually no down time in getting items created or posted.
Last edited by Bohbo; 2013-08-07 at 11:22 PM.
Yeah gems and enchants are the obvious things but otoh everyone else is thinking the same thing so depending on your server you might find there's so much competition the margin isn't that great.
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Looks like I need to dump all this imperial silk I stockpiled since we get a new "daily cloth" for 5.4 craftables.
Ugh, sucks that bags and spellthreads are tanked right now. I managed to pile up close to 50 of them .
Thankfully the 476 gear still sells for a decent profit to cloth margin.
Last edited by Saegno; 2013-08-08 at 11:34 AM.
Guy above me, dont go deleting it, make leg enchants.
Also, you should be making notes of all possible gem and enchant possibilities for when new LFR wings are going to open.
You'd possibly be wasting mats(looking at GL trans); making 20 of one gem when there are twice as many of another.
Last edited by usiris; 2013-08-08 at 01:09 PM.
Good News Everyone fresh from Today's 5.4 Update:
* Items formerly obtained with Valor Points that now cost Justice Points as well as gear crafted from new PvP recipes or plans will now disenchant into Sha Crystal Fragments.
Multiple Sha Crystal Fragments can be combined into a Sha Crystal.*
It's similair to what I thought would happen and hence I gave you the advice to not stock up ShaCrystals back in the olden days when I suggested to not stock up ShaCrystals
I'll be hoarding hefty supply of green quality gems and cheap Golden Lotus to use for transmutations.
Let the inital glare and overinflated supply wear off, then people actually progress through new raid and need gem upgrades, should get juicy 100-150 gold per useful cut again insted of this 50g crapzordon deflation like now. Then after a while LFR and Flex unlocks, far far more people get their upgrades and demand increases, so does the price. Worked well for 5.2, highest gem prices and demand were somewhere in late 5.2 / early 5.3. Used to sell a primal diamond for 800 gold each for a whooping 250% profit, this was actually spammable, on a good evening sold 60-80 uncut primals.
I will actually scavenge from those turned-up wannabe goldmakers dumping their stocks on a patch day undercutting eachother every second
if anything i think it cud be a nerf to the SHA crystals in the game. Former epic that used to drop a full crystal will now only DE into a fragment.
Im not convinced this is going to kill the crystal market. And i certainly dont think 50-60g. That would have to make etheral shards like 8g a piece.
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Your also forgetting, Virtual Realms.... prices will be unknown for a while maybe for a few weeeks until things stabilse for realms its going to affect.
Also remember others who play AH know to stock up and some started ages ago as well. usually first few days you find AH is flooded as everyone and their cat is trying to make a swift fast profit and usually to find market is flooded.
Over yrs of playing AH I find especially on big content patches like this one to come, AH will be lower due to flooded but in 2-3 weeks alot of items will be expensive as people have unloaded too much too fast, people bought while cheap, and it also takes time for guilds, raiders to get used too new raids, plus new raid finder and flex as well, few weeks after patch things will sell fast and for way more then on new patch. You will see.
Living steels are great but remember even though you stock pile and others do too, you can still xmute theses daily ontop of what you and everyone else already has saved up.
Ore will go up alot, need for bars, and soon huge need for gems, flasks too.
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