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    If the horde or maybe more to the point the orcs never appeared on azeroth

    Title says it all, Without the formation of the horde by the orcs, if the orcs never showed up, what do you think would have happened to Azeroth.

    Would things be status quo, better, worse, or somewhere between all three choices. As much as people hate thrall would Azeroth have been able to defeat Deathwing without its "Green Jesus" as people like to put it.

    Sorry if there's been other topics like this, couldn't find any

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    The destructive Night Elves would eventually have found a way to destroy the whole planet...
    The racist Humans would have wiped out all dwarves and gnomes..
    Worgen would not exist..

    One or more of the above..


    On Draenor, Orcs would have wiped Draenai off the face of the planet, in a combination of boredom and bloodlust..

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    The Legion would have likely moved against Azeroth again, perhaps with an other servitor race to weaken them overall. Without the orcs who prompted the formation of the Alliance and later stood against the Legion, the night elves might not have had the allies necessary to stop the Legion at Mount Hyjal. Medivh might have still been under Sargeras' control by then - if he didn't bring the Horde through, he would probably have formed some other scheme.

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    the alliance is an united force thanks to the horde

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    without horde theres no need for an alliance

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuxieDK View Post
    The destructive Night Elves would eventually have found a way to destroy the whole planet...
    The racist Humans would have wiped out all dwarves and gnomes..
    Worgen would not exist..

    One or more of the above..


    On Draenor, Orcs would have wiped Draenai off the face of the planet, in a combination of boredom and bloodlust..
    Yeah all 3 of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyshbonez View Post
    Title says it all, Without the formation of the horde by the orcs, if the orcs never showed up, what do you think would have happened to Azeroth.

    Would things be status quo, better, worse, or somewhere between all three choices. As much as people hate thrall would Azeroth have been able to defeat Deathwing without its "Green Jesus" as people like to put it.

    Sorry if there's been other topics like this, couldn't find any
    It's canon that if the Horde were never to arrive on Azeroth the Burning Legion would have destroyed Nordrassil and Azeroth as a whole. Hence why we go into the Caverns of Time to help Medivh spark the Dark Portal.

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    Ahn'Qiraj would have overrun Kalimdor and eventually Azeorth,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyshbonez View Post
    Title says it all, Without the formation of the horde by the orcs, if the orcs never showed up, what do you think would have happened to Azeroth.
    the Bronze Dragonflight already answered that
    Without the Horde and the Alliance that formed in response, the human kingdoms would have fought against each other over various things, the Legion would show up and GG for them
    We have faced trials and danger, threats to our world and our way of life. And yet, we persevere. We are the Horde. We will not let anything break our spirits!"

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    Well the humans and orcs would have never gone to night elf lands. The night elves wouldn't have been able to hold off the legion when it attack hyjal. So Azeroth would now be a legion world. All the races they were left would now be serving the legion and fighting on other worlds.
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    The Burning Legion used the orcs as a weapon against Azeroth. If it hadn't been the orcs, it would have been something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StationaryHawk View Post
    . If it hadn't been the orcs, it would have been something else.
    Fel Murlocs.......the untapped army
    We have faced trials and danger, threats to our world and our way of life. And yet, we persevere. We are the Horde. We will not let anything break our spirits!"

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    The Alliance you know today, would fight each other. Remember, those Human nations weren't allied before the Orcs came, the Orcs were the reason why they formed the Alliance.

    Lordaeron would stand allied with Quel'Thalas who might get help from Dalaran, but they would probably stay away for as long as they could. Stormwind would want to make all the human nations bow before them since they were the mightiest. Gilneas nation would never do that, they even said "fuck off" to the Alliance, Kul Tiras wouldn't know who to join either, since they would have allies on both fronts and would've been a strong economic trading nation between them.

    The Three Dwarven Clans would wage war against each other while gnomes would be tinkering nukes for the Ironforge Clan or/and the Nation of Lordaeron, since some gnomes were working for Lordaeron humans before the War.

    So yeah, Eastern Kingdoms wouldn't be the safest place to live. And as for the Night Elves, well they would get wiped off the Azeroth by C'thun when it emerged again. Since there would be no Horde and no Alliance, only Night Elves defending Silithus, they wouldn't stand much chance. Of course if the Legion wouldn't come by any other means before that, then they wouldn't stand a week against the Legion.
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    Been awhile since i went into Caverns of time, so sorry if it answered my question. Thanks for all the replies, i get random thoughts at work and try to remember them long enough to write it down lol

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    Alliance, lead by leeroy jenkins, would have rushed the burning legion and wiped.
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    Alliance would have thousands of citizens still living that are ready to fight the legion. Night elves did not need any help in the first invasion. And saying that they would destroy each other when legion comes is absurd. Human nations can not put so much damage as the orcs did. They would drink children's blood , hop on humans bones.

    Horde only helped night elves because medihv was obssesed with thrall and orcs for some reason. He directed all the way for the orcs to kalimdor. Even then they did much harm in their way. They killed cenarius and half their armies easily went back to the legion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cenkiss View Post
    Alliance would have thousands of citizens still living that are ready to fight the legion. Night elves did not need any help in the first invasion. And saying that they would destroy each other when legion comes is absurd. Human nations can not put so much damage as the orcs did. They would drink children's blood , hop on humans bones.

    Horde only helped night elves because medihv was obssesed with thrall and orcs for some reason. He directed all the way for the orcs to kalimdor. Even then they did much harm in their way. They killed cenarius and half their armies easily went back to the legion.
    Some correction.

    The night elves held some of the legion back, but they didn't hold out on there own. They ended up having the tauren and the earthen join them. They were also assisted by the dragon aspects and the demi gods of azeroth, so saying the night elves did it alone is bs.

    Medivh was obviously smart enough to know how strong the legion would be, and saw the horde as a force on par with the alliance. A character who looked beyond the restrictions of faction for the greater good.
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    Blizz came up with some silly canon that the Orcs rampaging through Azeroth, killing everything they could in a mindless bloodlust, that is what ultimately saved Azeroth from being destroyed by Legion/Scourge/Silithid/Old Gods/etc, so we should be thankful for our Orcish saviors.

    This was done specifically to nullify the VERY obvious retort by the Alliance to the Orcish presence here, especially given the current war with the Horde and Garrosh, especially with Garry claiming this as his world, and why the Orcs don't just pack their bags and go back to their own damn world.

    "Because without us, Azeroth would fall. kek."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathgoose View Post
    Blizz came up with some silly canon that the Orcs rampaging through Azeroth, killing everything they could in a mindless bloodlust, that is what ultimately saved Azeroth from being destroyed by demons, so we should be thankful for our Orcish saviors specifically to nullify the VERY obvious retort by the Alliance as to why the Orcs don't just pack their bags and go back to their own damn world.

    "Because without us, Azeroth would fall. kek."
    Without the Horde, there is no Alliance. Some human kingdoms (Alterac, Gilneas and somewhat Kul Tiras) were eager to conquer new lands, the problem is those lands belong to the other kingdoms.

    That not counting the three dwarven clans, the Zul'jin attacks against Quel'thalas and the Gurubashi regaining power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathgoose View Post
    Blizz came up with some
    .. Story that without would have no substance in this white knight and elf sausage fest without.

    Sometimes, I think you forget how boring the alliance is without the horde.
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